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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: UCUDANT] #21294
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Same car/fender different perspective


Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: UCUDANT] #21295
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: UCUDANT] #21296
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For those who think that original organosol was rough to the touch, here is a pic of an original 5600 mile A-12 bee hood. You can easily drag a rag across the hood and not have any catching. This is as good as it gets for how the finish of the hood really was.

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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #21297
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Full hood shot

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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #21298
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Mike I have been telling them the same thing for years. The A12's were hoods were not painted with the same stuff the AAR's or T/A's hoods were painted with.


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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: dannysbee] #21299
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Mike I have been telling them the same thing for years. The A12's were hoods were not painted with the same stuff the AAR's or T/A's hoods were painted with.





Danny, what were the A12's painted with?


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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21300
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Mike I don't know the code for it I just know the hoods did not have the texture that the restored cars have today. Possibly a flat black lacquer with a hot thinner. I got another question. Who painted the hoods the factory or the sub contractor that built the hoods?


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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: dannysbee] #21301
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Mike I don't know the code for it I just know the hoods did not have the texture that the restored cars have today. Possibly a flat black lacquer with a hot thinner. I got another question. Who painted the hoods the factory or the sub contractor that built the hoods?




Pretty sure the hoods were painted by the vendor (fixed it, #22)......with;

"2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black,"

The hoods were made in Canada in Toronto.

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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21302
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Mike I don't know the code for it I just know the hoods did not have the texture that the restored cars have today. Possibly a flat black lacquer with a hot thinner. I got another question. Who painted the hoods the factory or the sub contractor that built the hoods?




Pretty sure the factory painted the hoods......with;

"2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black,"

The hoods were made in Canada in Toronto.

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The Hoods were made in Canada, but Creative was the conversion point, did Creative Industries paint the hoods?

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: DAYCLONA] #21303
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Mike I don't know the code for it I just know the hoods did not have the texture that the restored cars have today. Possibly a flat black lacquer with a hot thinner. I got another question. Who painted the hoods the factory or the sub contractor that built the hoods?




Pretty sure the hoods were painted by the vendor (fixed it, #22)......with;

"2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black,"

The hoods were made in Canada in Toronto.

MikeR







The Hoods were made in Canada, but Creative was the conversion point, did Creative Industries paint the hoods?





Creative Industries didn't have anything to do with the A12's because the A12 package was an option to the base 383 RR and SB and it was mostly additions and deletions to items that were all capable of being installed on the standard assembly line. The only items that didn't or couldn't be put on the normal running assembly line were the carbs, air cleaner, hood pins and the hood/hood pin bezels, and scoop decals....the 440 engine installed just like a 383 or Hemi along with the trans, Dana, brakes, etc. just a few things at the end of the standard assembly line.

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Mike I don't know the code for it I just know the hoods did not have the texture that the restored cars have today. Possibly a flat black lacquer with a hot thinner. I got another question. Who painted the hoods the factory or the sub contractor that built the hoods?




Pretty sure the factory painted the hoods......with;

"2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black,"

The hoods were made in Canada in Toronto.

MikeR




And there ls the problem everyone is pretty sure but no one knows for sure. The hoods could have been been painted by the supplier possibly the factory. Could have been organisol or possibly the paint they used for the blackout on the front of the cars. Until someone finds someone that was involved in the building of the cars and painting of the hoods, I will have to believe in what I found on the A12 car I purchased in 1974 and the original hoods I bought over the years. A flat black paint with little to no texture.


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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: dannysbee] #21305
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Mike I don't know the code for it I just know the hoods did not have the texture that the restored cars have today. Possibly a flat black lacquer with a hot thinner. I got another question. Who painted the hoods the factory or the sub contractor that built the hoods?




The hoods were painted by the vendor (fixed it #22)......with;

"2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black,"

The hoods were made in Canada in Toronto.

MikeR




And there ls the problem everyone is pretty sure but no one knows for sure. The hoods could have been been painted by the supplier possibly the factory. Could have been organisol or possibly the paint they used for the blackout on the front of the cars. Until someone finds someone that was involved in the building of the cars and painting of the hoods, I will have to believe in what I found on the A12 car I purchased in 1974 and the original hoods I bought over the years. A flat black paint with little to no texture.




Danny I'll just say: (I fixed it, I should have read the bulletin I posted years ago duh)

I'm sure the hoods were painted with:

"2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black,"

MikeR

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #21306
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For those who think that original organosol was rough to the touch, here is a pic of an original 5600 mile A-12 bee hood. You can easily drag a rag across the hood and not have any catching. This is as good as it gets for how the finish of the hood really was.




Danny I'll just say:

I'm sure the factory painted the hoods with:

"2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black,"

MikeR

Mike R I would like to see an example of the paint code you have on a hood. The picture posted is very close to originals I have seen.

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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: dannysbee] #21307
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For those who think that original organosol was rough to the touch, here is a pic of an original 5600 mile A-12 bee hood. You can easily drag a rag across the hood and not have any catching. This is as good as it gets for how the finish of the hood really was.




Danny I'll just say:

I'm sure the factory painted the hoods with:

"2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black,"

MikeR

Mike R I would like to see an example of the paint code you have on a hood. The picture posted is very close to originals I have seen.




Danny I agree with you and Mike and everyone else that says the A12 hoods and even the '68 and '69 RR GTX etc., hood treatment did NOT have much texture if any The question I was trying to answer was if the hood manufacture painted the hoods and if the paint was organosol. The part number (2183385), paint code and the description above were right from a factory document for the A12 lift off hoods......can anyone check that AFX5DF code and part number to see what it might be?


Thanks,

MikeR


and here even the underside of a 1969 media photo of an A12 hood show NO texture in the paint. I know it's the underside but it would show some in spots if it did. I have an original A12 hood and the bezels have never been removed when I do remove them I'll post photos but we all know there will be very little if much texture

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The hoods were recieved at the factory already painted by the supplier. See line 22 of attached factory bulletin.


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The picture posted is very close to originals I have seen.




Very close???? That is an original 5600 mile untouched hood. Not only is it close, it is the real deal, exactly as it left the factory, untouched hood. (with incorrect facing decals, Thats for you A12 )


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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #21310
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The hoods were recieved at the factory already painted by the supplier. See line 22 of attached factory bulletin.




Now there's a real brain fart on my part, should have re-read that page or at least remembered it, thanks Mike.


but the paint info is what was spec'd for the hoods, that one I know for sure.


duh on me the hoods were painted by the vendor in Toronto and handled with care


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The picture posted is very close to originals I have seen.




Very close???? That is an original 5600 mile untouched hood. Not only is it close, it is the real deal, exactly as it left the factory, untouched hood. (with incorrect facing decals, Thats for you A12 )


That's twice today, first with Step 22 and now the decals......I'm logging off

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Mike I would have to see and touch it before I would say it is exactly. Certainly not trying to cast any doubt. That is how the decals look "right" to me.


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Mike I would have to see and touch it before I would say it is exactly. Certainly not trying to cast any doubt.



You can cast any doubt you want but that is a documented untouched car. It is not mine so I can say without braggin it is one of the finest if not the finest example of an original A12 bee in existance.

Your welcome to come and touch it just let me know when you will be here.( oops that sounded )The hood that is.


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