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Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 #21214
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Another FYI

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21215
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Your library of info is amazing! Do you think this is how the hood is done? I know that my hood is too gritty the way it is now and I'm kind of leaning toward the way it looks in the current special Hot Rod which is way smoother.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #21216
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Your library of info is amazing! Do you think this is how the hood is done? I know that my hood is too gritty the way it is now and I'm kind of leaning toward the way it looks in the current special Hot Rod which is way smoother.




John, someone that I respect quite a lot with Mopar restoration told me to look for paint code 9407 that this may be the "missing link" for the A12 and AAR/T/A hood paint. I asked if anyone here knew what 9407 was but as of now no reply.

I have this (see attachment) and the Dupont, R-M, and PPG paint chips but there is nothing on 9407 or any black except the 88L and Organosol.

MikeR

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21217
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I wonder if it's a PPG number? I have been using PPG Duracryl #9355 but it's just too gritty.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #21218
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Good info Mike.

I'll check, but I think 150% is about what my paint man used to get the fine '320 grit' texture. Tom Quad from Moparts (see attached) was suggesting 125% in his application procedure. Thinning is key in this ongoing texture and sheen debate.

Also attached is a variation on that TSB with instructions to 'shake well' and 'use DP-90 primer if desired'.

2229109-org2.jpg (1231 downloads)

Link to Slideshow...turn the music up. http://albums.phanfare.com/isolated/F39VvCq5/1/1491997 ...So when does government's A12 welfare start?..
Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: M_code_Coop] #21219
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My hood paint was thinned approximately 140% and was still too gritty in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, it looks "Way Cool", but is still too gritty for my taste.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #21220
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I wonder if it's a PPG number? I have been using PPG Duracryl #9355 but it's just too gritty.



That is what I have found to be the best solution to this Organisol paint situation. I painted 4 different 6bbl hoods over the years all with trying different thinner levels, temperature , air pressure etc. Always too much grit.

I shot PPG 9355 and used the slowest reducer. I was able to make a normal pass, followed by a pass going across what I just shot. It goes on like primer looking like it will be rough, but it flows out and lays down really nice with the slow reducer. I let it flash and then two more passes, criscrossing. Here is a picture of the results. Not an A12 hood but it is on a plastic bubble and a fiberglass hood scoop. I loved the way it cooperated and turned out. It matches the finish on an original A12 hood dead on.


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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #21221
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OK, let me ask a dumb question. Is the PPG #9355 an Enamel paint?

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: Fasbird] #21222
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21223
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Are you sure the PPG number isn't 9437? I have some of this and it is labled 9437 organisol in which I used to restore the tail light panel on a 69 R/T Charger and it turned out perfect. Man did it dry down very nice. I can't wait to spray my hood. Not to gritty at all and just the look I want for mine!

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: QuickSilver] #21224
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Are you sure the PPG number isn't 9437? I have some of this and it is labled 9437 organisol in which I used to restore the tail light panel on a 69 R/T Charger and it turned out perfect. Man did it dry down very nice. I can't wait to spray my hood. Not to gritty at all and just the look I want for mine!




Quicksilver, maybe it is 9437? I have to call. (Does this 9437 have a name?)


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The original PPG number was DDL 9355, the "L" means laquer. Most paint suppliers do not mix laquer anymore. They can pull up the 9355 formula in the computer and mix it as an enamel. It works much better than the laquer. That is why you can use the slower reducer.
The code is correct. After using this I would never shoot the laquer Or"crap"asol again. Same correct formula just enamel.
Organasol works well on small panels etc. but when you try to spray it on large areas it goes on too dry, therefore it gets rough. It leaves uneven stripes because of the over spray from the gun on a large area.


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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #21226
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The original PPG number was DDL 9355, the "L" means laquer. Most paint suppliers do not mix laquer anymore. They can pull up the 9355 formula in the computer and mix it as an enamel. It works much better than the laquer. That is why you can use the slower reducer.
The code is correct. After using this I would never shoot the laquer Or"crap"asol again. Same correct formula just enamel.
Organasol works well on small panels etc. but when you try to spray it on large areas it goes on too dry, therefore it gets rough. It leaves uneven stripes because of the over spray from the gun on a large area.




That's why I asked the above question. Laquer and reducer don't mix well.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21227
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This was something that my paint guy came up with and it is lacquer. It is PPG 9437 organisol. Thats what the label on the can says, it took several spray outs to get it right but I think that the look is right on. I did use a medium thinner if I remember correctly and overlapped my spray pattern probably 50 %. I never really keep track of that stuff I have just sprayed so much that I just do it.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: QuickSilver] #21228
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you can also get "organosol black" 9355 mixed in dcc low gloss "concept" ppg also.

lead free formula special low gloss color
mix:6 pts paint;2 pts dt reducer;1 pt dcx61

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: LO23] #21229
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I just finished spraying an A12 hood with
9355 lacquer which I bought and had mixed at my
local PPg supplier and i mesed it up the first
time by spraying it on too heavy and wet cause of hearing all the complaints of hoods being too gritty.i had too sand it all down cause the texture all went to the bottom.This time I mixed
it 150% with slow lacquer thinner and sprayed it on Medium wet and it went on perfect.It is
supposed to have texture,this hood feels like
220-320 grit sandpaper and i think that is what it is supposed to look like.Use a gravity feed
gun to spray it with so you can spray it with
lower air pressure.Siphon feed guns require about
45 psi and i think that is where the dry or zebra
stripes come into play.I used a Sata HVLP with
1.4 tip and it sprayed even and no stripes or
dry spray.it looks good in my book.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: JeffsCustomPaint] #21230
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Good posts here. My experience is that it likes to be shot over a cured (scuffed) paint finish better than DP. Lays down nice over the paint, but is too grainy over primer.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: Danan] #21231
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The stuff I got says 9346 on the can went on real easy and looks good seems to have the right texture also.Used it on my AAR

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i also need to get the Organisol for my tail light panel for my 69 Charger. Has anyone used the Organisol paint from Totally Auto? Is it any good or close to what the original stuff was?

thanks,

Brian

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A friend of mine used it on his 70 Cuda tail panel and was very happy with the results. I do not know how the original Cuda and Charger finishes compare?

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