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Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2094319
06/19/16 10:25 AM
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I never weighed my 13" rotors, but the 14" ones for my other car were either 18lbs or 19lbs. Maybe a pound or so for the hats for a total 20lbs...

There is websites that you can search vehicles by bolt patterns, wanting the same bolt pattern I used the matching vehicles and searched those for something with the diameters, thickness, and offsets I required. Napa online lets you search by vehicle and they list all those measurements, but they dont have everything either.

Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2094951
06/20/16 01:35 PM
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JCC is right. huge brakes are overkill.

But, so is 500+ Hp on street tires, but you don't see anyone criticizing engine builds for being excessive, do you? drive

I like using OEM take-off parts because they are built for longevity, can be readily found if you're left stranded somewhere. Every parts store has rebuild kits if not rebuilt calipers available. Rotors are off the shelf.

The SRT vehicles give us quite the range of calipers from 4 to 6 piston combos and a multitude of rotor sizes, 5 and 6 lug options.

My latest set-up is using Porsche/Audi/VW SUV calipers. They are a monoblock 6-piston brembo caliper, and I'm using Gen 3 and 4 Viper rotors at 14" but thats for my Dakota. On my Cuda, I'll likely look at the LX platform for rotors due to the 5-lug setup vs 6-lug.

Fabricating your own caliper brackets is not hard, especially for someone such as yourself with an engineering degree and CAD/3D modeling experience. --Something to think about once you decide to get back after a custom brake set-up





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Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2095129
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Are those 17z or 18z? I had 17z on my GTI for about 30 minutes, but they wouldn't fit my wheels without a huge spacer.


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Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2095131
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Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2095169
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All these pics of cars with huge amounts of rotor-real estate on them have one thing in common; They all have jacks, jackstands and even pieces of wood under them... biggrin

Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: AlexP] #2095170
06/20/16 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted By AlexP
Are those 17z or 18z? I had 17z on my GTI for about 30 minutes, but they wouldn't fit my wheels without a huge spacer.


I've done a set of both. First set was the 17z on 14" rotors. Sold them to a guy with a Dakota, then I tried 18z on 14" rotors. The 17z on 14" rotors was a less than ideal fit. When setting the caliper as low as possible, the middle of the pad ended up riding high on the rotor because the 17z was meant for a 13" rotor. with the 18z calipers, I had to get a little deeper into the spindle than most guys would feel comfortable with when clearanceing the spindle for the caliper. If I do this again, I'd go back to the 17z caliper and duplicate the work I did to the pads to get them to sit lower in the caliper to avoid the massive overhang in the middle of the caliper. (my only regret on this option is that you can't buy parts off the shelf and slap them on without some machine work...but an amature with an angle grinder can remove enough of the metal backing plate to drop the pads down lower onto the rotor.)

my Dakota has CCW wheels, and clear just fine, but they are massive calipers that may interfere with other wheel options


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Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: BigBlockMopar] #2095172
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Originally Posted By BigBlockMopar
All these pics of cars with huge amounts of rotor-real estate on them have one thing in common; They all have jacks, jackstands and even pieces of wood under them... biggrin




Standby!!!


I'll get you a pic if you want! devil


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Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2095176
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Here's a pic of my lowly 11.75" C-body rotors... Look ma, no stands!





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Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2095232
06/20/16 09:10 PM
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Ok, no stands here either... grin

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Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2095450
06/21/16 03:40 AM
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Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: ntstlgl1970] #2095493
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Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2095658
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Big brakes are my friend.

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Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2096043
06/22/16 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted By GoodysGotaCuda
Thanks for the input all. I've decided to go with a Wilwood rear disc kit and put on what i have already for the front [11 3/4"]. I'll dig into the car after it's together to upgrade the front brakes to what I want later on.

Priority #1 is to get it on the road again! I'd rather hold off and do what I want over a weekend rather than delay the drive date.


This is the best idea, get it driving first....

Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2108851
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This white little Dart-sized heap showed up at work today.




Thought about putting it on blocks and snatch the brakes so I could join the shiny BigBrake-festivities overhere, but they looked at bit, 'dull' so I didn't bother.



Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: BigBlockMopar] #2108867
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Look at that funny little horsie logo. whistling I wonder if it's very fast stirthepot 458 Italia- Nice

Re: Budget "Big"-ish Brake Options - Front/Rear [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2110537
07/15/16 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted By GoodysGotaCuda

[*]Does anyone have either of these Dr. Diff kits? What are your thoughts and do you have any installed pictures?


I have both front and rear. You can come by the house and take a look if you wish.

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