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I follow a page on Facebook called G3 Hemi Swap and one of the guys own there owns a shop that does restomod Mopars, and a few times now I've seen him build a 'Cuda with a Viper chassis and suspension system along with a G3 Hemi. It seems like a really cool idea and I imagine it's probably difficult and expensive, anyone here know anything more about it or what's involved? I would want to do this on a Challenger

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I'm sure its done, guess it would be cool, and if I won the lottery I still could find better things to do with the jackpot $. Seems to me it would just be a slow, crappy viper that looked 40 years old in the end. That's as positive as I can be on the idea. eek


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Originally Posted By jcc
I'm sure its done, guess it would be cool, and if I won the lottery I still could find better things to do with the jackpot $. Seems to me it would just be a slow, crappy viper that looked 40 years old in the end. That's as positive as I can be on the idea. eek


Lol well you don't have to like it :P I just thought the idea of making the old car handle a lot better was cool

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I believe being blunt saves time. Want something different that improves handling/performance that would push the envelope, and cost money, figure out a good 4 wheel drive solution.


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Originally Posted By jcc
I believe being blunt saves time. Want something different that improves handling/performance that would push the envelope, and cost money, figure out a good 4 wheel drive solution.


It does, and I'm not a big fan of four wheel drive because not only would it be very difficult, I don't think there's anything in the aftermarket for these cars to do something like that, nothing I've heard of anyway. And 4 wheel drive has more things to break, and it's more expensive to fix

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Be alot easier to just put a Hemi in a Viper.


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Probably but that's not what I'm going for. Plus, I don't like stick and the Viper has no option for auto, and I don't want to try a swap. I want to do a restomod Challenger and I heard that the Viper chassis worked really well for it which is why I was interested

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Schwartz performance does something similar with a Vette chassis. Every E bod I ever saw with it looks like a fat man atop a step ladder. But that is just me.


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The Cuda I saw with the Viper setup looked like a normal e-body for the most part, I guess that's part of the reason why they chose it

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I was watching one of those car shows, I don't remember which one other than it was a purple Challenger. Looked like the put the bottom of the floor boards atop the frame. Sat way high.

I think this is it

http://www.powernationtv.com/episode/DM2016-03/ultraviolet-payoff


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Originally Posted By Spartan040
Probably but that's not what I'm going for. Plus, I don't like stick and the Viper has no option for auto, and I don't want to try a swap. I want to do a restomod Challenger and I heard that the Viper chassis worked really well for it which is why I was interested



Use the Viper engine out of an SRT10 quad cab truck then...they used an auto. (I have one here in the garage I am putting into a '68 Chevy C10)

If you are going to the trouble of chopping up the E body and making all the chassis mods, might as well use the V10 I would think as well ?

And would think the width/track of the Viper would be pretty wide to an E body just off hand ?

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Originally Posted By Supercuda
I was watching one of those car shows, I don't remember which one other than it was a purple Challenger. Looked like the put the bottom of the floor boards atop the frame. Sat way high.

I think this is it

http://www.powernationtv.com/episode/DM2016-03/ultraviolet-payoff

Yeah that car is way too high! The exhaust tubes angle up to the tips haha! I have never seen that on an Ebody before haha! I wonder how it rides with a higher center of gravity?

The video was mentioning that the "front tires were pushing". Well thats what happens when the fronts are way narrower than the rears. I think understeer is the correct term haha!

I'll be honest and would have rather driven the white Camaro on the video that thing looks setup properly!


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At risk of sounding like captain obvious:

The wheelbase is wrong by at least a foot.
The width is wrong but not nearly as bad.
The engine is huge and requires a complete rework of the firewall (though not in the OP's wish list)

It is no small feat to get anything viper to fit under an older Mopar.


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Some years back, Gary Meadors had talked with me about our 300 B at a Goodguys event. Spoke to him a couple of times by telephone while he was seeking one for himself.

Told me one day that he had found a stick shift 300 B(very rare) and was shipping off to Coddington for restoration. Saw it one day sitting in Coddingtin's shop on an episode of American Hotrodder.

Couple of years later was at Mopar Alley annual Mopar show with my 300. In pulls Meafors grinning ear to ear with his recently finished 300. Parked next to me in 300 class and told me that Coddington had basically jacked up the 300 body and placed a Viper chassis under it, retaining the B's original 354 Hemi. I asked him why a resto mod and not a restoration. He responded that chatting with Coddington over a couple of drinks and one thing led to another!

Meadors had often shown this car at local to me Peasanton home base events for Goodguys.

A local friend of mine now owns the car where I recently shot these photos.

Very nicely done car, albeit sorry that a really rare stick shift 300 B was sacrificed. A Windsor body with 300 trim would have served as well.

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That's surely interesting, but one often left out main point in these stories, besides the nice pics, how does it drive/handle, which is the point, right? Not sure you know, but I would like to.


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Have been told by both Meadors and current owner that drives and handles extremely well. Wish I could say the same for my B.

Suspension, brakes, driveline, steering to my understanding is mostly if not all Viper,,,354 Hemi as mentioned earlier remains as power plant. Believe may have an overdrive GM auto gearbox.

There is a current segment on Chasing Classic Cars where the car is presented and subsequently sold at Barrett Jackson Scottsdale to my friend and current owner.

Segment has been rerun several times recently.







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