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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2108386
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My question about the mono-leafs has to do with the double whammy of the car being a pack-mule, combined with rough roads. It's not unusual for a car on Drag Week to have 400 to 800 more lbs. in it over "race weight" while driving down the back roads.

I would love to start preparing for Drag Week 2016...but I haven't finished the 2015 story yet...


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Bad340fish] #2108389
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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
I am planning on dropping the new for drag week 416 in this weekend. I really want to get to the track this Month. Since the EFI is still new to me I want to try and get a handle on what this motor wants prior to drag week.


Any details on the new combo Clark?

Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2108415
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60 days, Billy...
That's a good question on the mono leafs Billy. I'm going to call Jay tommorrow and ask, I think he ran mono leafs on his Galaxy.

Good luck on the efi, Clark. You're braver than me.


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2108465
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I just wrecked mine driving to the track on wet roads. Broke and twisted up my k frame.


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: rt66jim] #2108566
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Originally Posted By rt66jim
Originally Posted By Bad340fish
I am planning on dropping the new for drag week 416 in this weekend. I really want to get to the track this Month. Since the EFI is still new to me I want to try and get a handle on what this motor wants prior to drag week.


Any details on the new combo Clark?


Its a W2 headed 416 my Dad and I built last summer from a sum of parts we both had, mostly his. We were going to run it last year but thought we had a thrust issue so we pulled it the weekend before drag week and put the 360 back in. Turns out the thrust is in spec although on the loose side and the thrust bearing and surface look great.


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2108568
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Originally Posted By Hemi_Joel
60 days, Billy...
That's a good question on the mono leafs Billy. I'm going to call Jay tommorrow and ask, I think he ran mono leafs on his Galaxy.

Good luck on the efi, Clark. You're braver than me.


Joel the EFI has been running on the 360 and I have been to the track with it. I Still have a little learning to do but it starts idles and runs the ET it should in the air conditions. I ran this EFI Controller(Megasquirt) to control my ignition last year so I have some time on it, although I still have lots to learn about what all it can do.

My car has Mono springs on it. DW12 was my first and I packed more than I needed and really beat the springs up. After 2012 I started swapping to an air shock for the road sections. Its not a big deal to swap them since I am already swapping tires. 30psi in the air shocks and it rides good and sits good.

After 4 DWs my mono springs were beat, I just replaced the rear halves with the stock ride hieght version and the difference between them and the old ones just laying on the ground is big. I haven't set the car down on the ground yet to see how much higher it made it but it needed to raise up. I am sure the beating I gave them on DW12 did them no favors at all, I have rub marks in my fenders from some of the "roads" and I just can't picture how a tire was able to make it up that far LOL.

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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: sixpackgut] #2108573
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Originally Posted By sixpackgut
I just wrecked mine driving to the track on wet roads. Broke and twisted up my k frame.


No good man. Hope you're OK.


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2108579
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I've been working on my 66 Plymouth that has seen street/strip duty for the last 15 years. Going to run DD or SRBBNA.

Things already done:
-Built a new, larger fuel cell w/ in tank pumps
-added elec fan
-wired horn
-Converted to TBI
-built hitch
-minor weight reduction

To Do:
-inspect rockers/valvetrain
-finish N2O install (although I won't be using it...or will I)
-Rollbar?
-balljoints/alignment
-build hitch/tire carrier
-make some passes, I haven't had it to the track this year, just street miles tuning the EFI
-determine if I am going to run 1 set of tires, or swap at the track


And yeah, they do look a bit better with bigger tires out back

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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: sixpackgut] #2108770
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Are you OK? Can you fix it in time for DW?


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2108776
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OUTLAWD, cool. We will probably end up in the same class.

I talked to Jay about mono leafs. He ran them on the Galaxie for 2 years without a problem, but he pulls a trailer so he only had a couple hundred pounds in the trunk.

I'll load it up and see how it looks. I don't know if my trunk monkey is up for switching air shocks/race shocks at every track. shruggy purple

Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2108818
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Fwiw, my car worked just fine with mp xhd springs and cal tracs.


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2108838
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Originally Posted By Hemi_Joel
I'll load it up and see how it looks. I don't know if my trunk monkey is up for switching air shocks/race shocks at every track. shruggy purple


You could always leave your umbrella at home? Less weight then.

You have a good trunk Monkey, but changing shocks every day? Only if you buy Texas Roadhouse every night...


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2108863
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Strategy for Drag Week attire: Save clothes all year that would have got thrown away. Put them in a suitcase, bring them on Drag Week. When they get dirty, throw them in the trash at the motel. No packing out dirty laundry! I learned this from former DW competitor Mike Moore. So what if you look like a hobo?


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2108871
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For the amount they want for a T-shirt now...
your right... I use to buy the year old ones
for a cheaper price(4 for X amount).. what do
they want now.. $25 each
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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: JERICOGTX] #2108893
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Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
You have a good trunk Monkey, but changing shocks every day? Only if you buy Texas Roadhouse every night...


At least you don't have to buy a seat to ride in this one!


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2108922
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Cool project

Good Luck!

Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: sixpackgut] #2109033
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Originally Posted By sixpackgut
I just wrecked mine driving to the track on wet roads. Broke and twisted up my k frame.


Ohhh man, say it ain't so!!! How bad is it?


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2109110
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I gripe about it a lot but the shock swap is pretty easy. While I swap the shocks my dad caps or uncaps the exhaust and whoever is done first starts on the tires.


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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: Bad340fish] #2109120
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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
I gripe about it a lot but the shock swap is pretty easy. While I swap the shocks my dad caps or uncaps the exhaust and whoever is done first starts on the tires.



I tried to build mine as a one man show.. now
I just have to swaps the cam and heads.. should
make close to the same power.. maybe 20hp less..
just a guess...I'll drag a small trailer.. no
changing tires and elec cut outs... I worry more
about the front suspension than anything.. one
big chuck hole could break a heim joint... I'm
thinking about bigger tubing and bigger heims
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Re: The Road to Drag Week, 2016 [Re: fast68plymouth] #2109154
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
Fwiw, my car worked just fine with mp xhd springs and cal tracs.

same as how I run my 68 Satellite plus Rancho rear shocks .
I drive to the track , and have driven a few times interstate . Race wheels , spare wheel , jack , spares , tools in the boot . Esky on the back seat if needed . No worries . All I do is empty trunk , swap rear wheels , adjust shocks (F&R) and fit carb air pan . Oh and hook up harness . About 30 minutes .
Done this for the last 5 or 6 years

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