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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2087486
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This is the next venture. To actually find a Titanium supplier/company that would have these in stock in SAE inch sizes.
Anyone know of a reputable source?
I've looked and so far none.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2087492
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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
That's the move. Car will feel the road better as well.
Have you factored in the belts, hoses, brackets and misc hardware to mount the old set up? You could be saving more LBS than you think.


Yes, its all in the second pic, except the belt and the fluid, which might be offset by the heavier? single groove damper instead of the previous double groove set-up, not much difference regardless on those parts.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: jcc] #2087496
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Yes, Funny how one can look and not see.
A nice plus is a minute few horses being gifted back to the motor for not driving the pump.
A little off the deep end here was the use of Titanium mounting bolts and manual box top cover bolts.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2087608
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Lee, I found a place that makes titanium fasteners and they claim to make custom parts. The carry regular flange and hex nuts, can't see why they couldn't make those castle nuts.

http://racetechtitanium.com/


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #2087632
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While admiring you weight watcher addicts I've come to the conclusion HORSEPOWER is what's KING with owning a Hellcat and a mid 7 second street legal car...Both get the job done with HP the Cat @4400# and the Fish @3250#....Yep both are power adder cars and if your not you might as well stay on the PORCH !!

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Gary Robbins] #2087676
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Yes HP is King, but most people have a modest amount of the natural aspirated kind that is not readily available because of the physical state of their rides and in this case, will probably lean over to trying to retrieve that available HP with less mass.

Personally, I like a manageable engine that scoots with out sweat and can last a long time as time is the main phenomenon that I don't have enough of when it comes to engine maintenance.
Maybe its my lack of patience with such things.
Funny enough though, I must admit that I do spend that unavailable time here and there fabricating stuff for the art sake of it anyway.
Though power adders do make it more simpler and are finally the new breed of car on the street and strip, there are still a fair amount of carbureted mills out there and some, not all get it done on the Jenny Craig doctrine.
I also suspect that the lag being witnessed in the performance scene these days is due to many heads that simply do not want to tune cars based on the new technology, but rather just turn screws. Old school vs new and improved and maybe its also a generational thing.

Talking about weight watching and with out a long story, shortly before the Cat came out of the bag at Dodge, I was in talks with the powers that be about a special limited edition "Alley cat" lightweight version of the HC and it was a horses hair from becoming a reality. Unfortunately some things came into play and it was cut off the balance sheet in the ninth inning. It would have been an animal along with some rather special features and collector merchandising never before presented by Dodge.
Lets just say that I am very, very close to a test driver for all new makes coming down the pipeline, and I was impressed rather quickly on how powerful that Cat was, but the Fat Lady still bothered me. LOL.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #2087678
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Yes, thank you. I've reached out to them but they need a minimum of a 100 pieces to even talk to me.
I've got to find one of those one uv one places that will make 'em for the love of such of deceit. I need about 16 of them.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Gary Robbins] #2088463
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Originally Posted By Gary Robbins
While admiring you weight watcher addicts I've come to the conclusion HORSEPOWER is what's KING with owning a Hellcat and a mid 7 second street legal car...Both get the job done with HP the Cat @4400# and the Fish @3250#....Yep both are power adder cars and if your not you might as well stay on the PORCH !!


Impressive numbers on both. Lightweight cars take less abuse doing it and those numbers get better with less weight. I think knocking 500#'s off that Hellcat would shock a lot of people.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2088497
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I have lost enough weight that I now need new springs.🍺🍻🏁

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: FastmOp] #2088517
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Originally Posted By FastmOp
I have lost enough weight that I now need new springs.🍺🍻🏁


Nice! Pics of progress? I really like that car


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: OUTLAWD] #2088595
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Here's something I fished out of the Formula one pond.
"Minimum weight (kg)

"Minimum weight (turbos) (kg)
The rule makers believed excessively light cars had become an unacceptable hazard to drivers. In preceding seasons it was not uncommon for teams to drill holes in parts of their cars, such as the steering columns, to shave off weight in the pursuit of performance.

Unsurprisingly it was Lotus owner Colin Chapman, whose preoccupation with weight-saving bordered on obsession, who pointed out that light weight and safety were not necessarily mutually exclusive, and that recent fatalities had befallen drivers of the heaviest cars on the grid.

Chapman not unreasonably argued a heavier car is harder to slow down in a crash and dissipates more energy in an impact, making it more dangerous. But it was also true that many of his drivers were concerned his pursuit of low weight went beyond merely putting too little fuel in his cars and resulted in chassis that were too fragile and put them at greater risk".

There is reason here from both sides and people should be careful about what they do to their cars in the pursuit of Happiness in Performance. If in question, I always make it a point to have a frequent multi-point check on stuff just to be safe.
This practice also finds potential problems that could/would be occurring without anything to do with weight loss, though like said above, less weight has the potential most of the time to keep breakage to a minimum compared to the heavy weights.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2088867
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The fenders and bumpers are all that's left of the old car. I'll make a one piece doghouse this winter. It's time to race.


Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: FastmOp] #2088889
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Aren't the bumpers just plastic covers over aluminum or styrofoam impact braces?
I'm sure those fenders are lightweight steel as well or not?

Fantastic molding and finishing job on a very cool car.
Do you have weight bars or weight stations in it?

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2088904
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The rear bumper is just the stock rubber bumper that's just along for the ride. Its light. The front nose piece is stock rubber bumper over a moly skeleton holding the fenders and bumper together. I modded both, but have a lot more time in the front with filling in the holes and trying to make it streamlined.




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Man, you have done more ambitious work than all of us here together.
I can imagine the mathematics behind making molds, casting, trial fitting and installation along with keeping true to the original or at least enhancing the original aero form.
That car looks slippery.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2089829
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Just scaled it, 200 pounds is what I lost

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2089869
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Let us know how much ET you pick up from the 200lb weight loss..


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I dumped 65-70 pounds this winter by dumping the dash, dash structure, steering column, kick panel structure, brackets (all under dash) mounted a little aluminum panel with tach and oil pressure

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: 590 Challenger] #2091008
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Mid ship and high. Good weight kill right there.
Love the fact that a small tire can get the job done with a relatively lightweight package.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: 590 Challenger] #2091911
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Originally Posted By 590 Challenger
I dumped 65-70 pounds this winter by dumping the dash, dash structure, steering column, kick panel structure, brackets (all under dash) mounted a little aluminum panel with tach and oil pressure


Love the idea, but since the Demon is still streetable I refuse to dump the dash. The cage guy actually bent the bars wrong so it is sans dash now but has a trip to the chassis shop to get that issue fixed.

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