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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
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06/23/20 10:04 PM
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Funny, this thread is 4 years old!
What I ended up doing was going to a Dana 60 with a Dr. Diff spool and axles. I couldn't be happier!
This car sees a lot of street miles and gets to the track probably 5-6 times during the Summer. Only issues are with tight parking spaces but I can live with that.
I'm now spraying a 200 shot on top of what I was doing and everything works great!
The only thing I will recommend is throwing the wheel studs that come with the Dr. Diff axles in the trash and replacing with something like Strange. They were bending. I have the same set up from Dr Diff in my Savoy . How are your wheel studs bending?
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
[Re: TonyS451]
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06/24/20 07:14 AM
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The ONLY time I've not wanted a spool is when trying to push the car w/ the front wheels turned.
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
[Re: TonyS451]
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06/24/20 11:16 AM
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Funny, this thread is 4 years old!
What I ended up doing was going to a Dana 60 with a Dr. Diff spool and axles. I couldn't be happier!
This car sees a lot of street miles and gets to the track probably 5-6 times during the Summer. Only issues are with tight parking spaces but I can live with that.
I'm now spraying a 200 shot on top of what I was doing and everything works great!
The only thing I will recommend is throwing the wheel studs that come with the Dr. Diff axles in the trash and replacing with something like Strange. They were bending. I have the same set up from Dr Diff in my Savoy . How are your wheel studs bending? Big torque and crap quality studs that weren't Grade 8 like they were marked.
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
9.92 @ 135mph with a 350 shot of nitrous and 93 octane pump. 1.43 60 ft. 3,750 lbs.
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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06/24/20 11:18 AM
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The ONLY time I've not wanted a spool is when trying to push the car w/ the front wheels turned. No doubt! A couple of degrees of steering angle and you're screwed! One of the tracks we go to has a 90* right turn in the staging lanes and then another to get to the burnout box. It gets fired up to move it. 
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
9.92 @ 135mph with a 350 shot of nitrous and 93 octane pump. 1.43 60 ft. 3,750 lbs.
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
[Re: GY3]
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06/24/20 12:34 PM
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What is the practical experience with the warning from the Strange S-trac manual: Warning: In extreme situations damage to the unit can occur when one tire spins excessively fast
compared to the other tire. An example of this would be when leaving the water box during a burnout.
Typically one tire will dry up faster than the other creating an unequal traction situation which can cause
an excessive difference in tire speeds. Care should be taken to avoid this situation.
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
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06/24/20 12:52 PM
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I have a new Auburn unit in the car (complete 3rd member from Manciniracing) that's already starting to make noises going around corners. Less than 2k miles.  It's in an 8 3/4 with 3.55 gears and I'm pushing 600 horsepower with ET Street Pro's. I'm not a fan of the Detroit locker because of the noises it makes in a friend's 9 inch. I've thought about a spool but not excited about corners on the street with one. Is the truetrac okay for this level of horsepower and sticky tires? I've started gathering Dana 60 parts and may just upgrade the whole rear.   In my 8.75 I just swapped from a 2.76 single track to a 3.23 suregrip. It was/is only there until I get around to pulling it and swapping in my freshly built 3.91 spool rear. I run an B engined Demon it mostly sees and will continue to see street duty with some racing here and there. I'm hoping at least a stage or two of Drag Week is in that mix this year. When I build my 512 I may swap to a 60 based rear.
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
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06/24/20 11:02 PM
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Canada
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Should I assume the Eaton TrueTrac is still hit and miss and to be avoided?
Powerlocker- anybody have good/bad stuff I should know? lol There has been a powerlocker in the car for years and years, I've never had trouble with it....
I know....
Yet lol
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
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06/27/20 08:25 AM
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The ONLY time I've not wanted a spool is when trying to push the car w/ the front wheels turned. I ran a spool years ago in my bracket car and loved it for a race car. The one thing I don't like about them is if you have to have the car pushed as then it feels like you put the brakes on when turning. That's why I went with the Detroit Locker for my street car. And its been working fine for about 9 years. Ron
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
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06/27/20 11:57 AM
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I have a Detroit Locker in the Duster but I'm going to swap it for an S Trac. The Locker is noisy and sometimes it does something weird when I'm not expecting it. Nothing super serious, just a wiggle when I get out of the throttle or something like that. Can be a little spooky if you're coming around a corner or going fast. Andy how does the S Trac work ? Is it a posi type of unit ? Thanks , Ron
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
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06/28/20 06:31 AM
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We have a Detroit locker in our Dana 60 in a 3900lb (W/D) E body. It works really well, no noises, no shimmy when on and off the throttle. I phoned round looking for something to take 950ft/lb and 1000hp + and no-one would recommend anything but a spool  we have little room to turn round where we live so a spool was a no  Couldn't be happier really, car goes straight and will carry the wheels 100ft+ on most passes 
'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials.
9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
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06/28/20 10:54 AM
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Spool in my car was in there when I bought it 30 years ago. Street driven over 1500 miles a season and an average of 50 passes per season.As of now the car has been 9.3 @ 147 ,,,,,,,,,3700 lbs. OH,,,,,,,and BLACK LINES MATTER for those with Carownersvirus 
HEMI-ITIS has no cure.
My condition is fully BLOWN!!
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
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06/28/20 01:14 PM
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This thread has been enlightening. I have always read to stay away from a spool if the car is street driven. I am seeing now that may not be the case. How about in a light rain, does a spool make the car step out in a turn? Hell yes. Requires pretty careful application of the throttle in any turn on a slick surface! Roundabouts get really interesting.
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip?
[Re: hudsonhornet7x]
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06/28/20 02:59 PM
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This thread has been enlightening. I have always read to stay away from a spool if the car is street driven. I am seeing now that may not be the case. How about in a light rain, does a spool make the car step out in a turn? I do my best NOT to get caught in the rain. My tires have no tread! I have a couple of times when it sprinkled and just had to drive slowly and carefully.
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
9.92 @ 135mph with a 350 shot of nitrous and 93 octane pump. 1.43 60 ft. 3,750 lbs.
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