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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: GY3] #2080725
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Take it apart, use a spring tester and find out what the factory springs are and replace them with some that are 200lb. stronger. There is also a video out there that tells about taking the cones out and machining the flat on the small end off so that they cannot bottom out in the housing. By doing the stronger springs and the machine work, the Auburn can work like it is really supposed to.


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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: jcc] #2081256
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Originally Posted By jcc
"Auburn type units are garbage, but you know that"

I unfortunately have come to that conclusion, AFTER I bought a new Auburn, my question, is there any low enough hp application that an Auburn will survive, like a healthy slant six?


An Auburn will survive if you NEVER turn ...


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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: Slingshot383] #2081259
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Originally Posted By Slingshot383
Take it apart, use a spring tester and find out what the factory springs are and replace them with some that are 200lb. stronger. There is also a video out there that tells about taking the cones out and machining the flat on the small end off so that they cannot bottom out in the housing. By doing the stronger springs and the machine work, the Auburn can work like it is really supposed to.


All that does is continue with it's pisspoor design , they self destruct everytime you turn.

And that is only doable on the Borg Warner cone type , and don't forget to shim the side gears after machining the cones. the current design Auburns are not designed to be disassembled , once its not working anymore it's a door stop.


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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: JohnRR] #2081279
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Originally Posted By JohnRR
Originally Posted By jcc
"Auburn type units are garbage, but you know that"

I unfortunately have come to that conclusion, AFTER I bought a new Auburn, my question, is there any low enough hp application that an Auburn will survive, like a healthy slant six?


An Auburn will survive if you NEVER turn ...


I've been making really wide turns lately to prolong it's life until the Dana is done. laugh2

Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: JohnRR] #2081375
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Originally Posted By JohnRR
Originally Posted By jcc
"Auburn type units are garbage, but you know that"

I unfortunately have come to that conclusion, AFTER I bought a new Auburn, my question, is there any low enough hp application that an Auburn will survive, like a healthy slant six?


An Auburn will survive if you NEVER turn ...


But I really like my steering wheel bawling


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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: GY3] #2081464
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Go the Dana path, I to spent many $$$ on eatons trutrac in an 83/4 but the noise was just beyond belief, now have a Dana truck, with ends, axles from Cass, Strange S-Trac and 3.7 gears,,,,, much happier

Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: crash520] #2081736
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I have a locker in my car with a Dana 60 and I absolutely hate it. I hear people talk how great they are and I just don't get it... Run a spool before you run a locker. At least it won't crack and bang lol. I ordered a S60 from Cass with the strange differential he talked me into. I hope it works good.

Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: GY3] #2082687
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I have a spool for the Demon. The Grand Wagoneer has a Lockrite locker and it clicks all the time when turning, but it locks up right now when in the throttle.


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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: GY3] #2082752
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I have a Power Trax (VX-124A) locker in my Cuda's 8-3/4. It has seen a fair amount of track use since the year 2000. It does click when making turns, but I am OK with that. It came with two sets of springs; one stiffer for more track use, and one set for more street use. This car is over 3700 lbs with me in it and runs high 11's in the 1/4 mile.


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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: Uncle Barry] #2083027
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Originally Posted By Uncle Barry
I have a locker in my car with a Dana 60 and I absolutely hate it. I hear people talk how great they are and I just don't get it... Run a spool before you run a locker. At least it won't crack and bang lol. I ordered a S60 from Cass with the strange differential he talked me into. I hope it works good.


Dont know what kind of locker you have but I run the Detroit Locker in my 8-3/4 and most of the time I dont even know its in there. Sure a little click now and then but thats all I ever notice. I hardly ever here noise from my locker that I can hear and I run a full exh out to the back of the car as my car is not all that loud. But with the Dana why not just run the factory posi/sure grip clutch pack setup ? We ran that for years in my brothers race car.
Is the Strange diff you are getting a clutch type unit ? Ron

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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: GY3] #2083083
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Its a Detroit locker if I remember. There's no doubt it works. Its just WAY too harsh for my car and setup. It is going to break something in the front end of my car if I continue to use it without a doubt. It probably has real heavy springs in it im sure. I ordered a s60 with the s- trac helical differential from Dr. Diff.

Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: Uncle Barry] #2083167
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Still have the spool that came in the car when I bought it over 25 years ago smoke


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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: Uncle Barry] #2084206
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Originally Posted By Uncle Barry
I have a locker in my car with a Dana 60 and I absolutely hate it. I hear people talk how great they are and I just don't get it... Run a spool before you run a locker. At least it won't crack and bang lol. I ordered a S60 from Cass with the strange differential he talked me into. I hope it works good.


You'll love it! I just changed from a true track to an S-tack and you can't even hear or feel it.

Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: GY3] #2084222
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I just looked at the S-track .pdf and it looks like a just Eaton True Track but with a THRUST PLATE in the center.


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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: GY3] #2084352
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You guys are making me lean towards a spool for my street car. I ran a spool in all my cars over the years because they were also raced alot. The spools were ok but tend to be annoying when turning in a parking lot or if you are trying to push your car around in a driveway if the motor isn't done yet, it is almost impossible to push the car with the front wheels turned.
But, I have a Duster with a stroked big block and if I decide to drive it to one of our local dragstrips and make a few fun passes, I'd have zero confidence in my cone-type factory posi unit(8.75). A spool with some 3.23 gears and some drag radials might have to be the way to go.


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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: GY3] #2084391
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Cass told me I will really like the s-trac. Said its good for 1,000 HP. I'll never be at that kind of HP and my car is a street car and want it to have decent manners. I have done some reading on them and it sounds like they take quite the abuse on pretty fast, high HP cars on the track.

Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: GY3] #2084466
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I ran a locker for a few years. It wasn't loud or anything, and it stood up to my abuse. Only thing I didn't like was that it pushed the car left & right when on & off the throttle. Wasn't really a big deal, until I started doing more bracket racing, and suddenly racing the stripe became an adventure when the car wanted to dart around at 115mph when I chopped the throttle.

I went to a spool this past winter, and I really can't figure out why people make a big deal out if it. Knowing what I know now, I'd choose a spool over the locker for a street / strip car. Sure the inside tire chatters on tight slow corners..... big deal.

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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: ProSport] #2084550
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Originally Posted By ProSport
You guys are making me lean towards a spool for my street car. I ran a spool in all my cars over the years because they were also raced alot. The spools were ok but tend to be annoying when turning in a parking lot or if you are trying to push your car around in a driveway if the motor isn't done yet, it is almost impossible to push the car with the front wheels turned.
But, I have a Duster with a stroked big block and if I decide to drive it to one of our local dragstrips and make a few fun passes, I'd have zero confidence in my cone-type factory posi unit(8.75). A spool with some 3.23 gears and some drag radials might have to be the way to go.


I would put in a Detroit locker before a spool , if your exhaust is loud enough I doubt you'll here the clicking going around a corner.

Strange only makes the S-track for the Dana 60 and 9 inch so it's not an option.


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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: ProSport] #2084566
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Originally Posted By ProSport
You guys are making me lean towards a spool for my street car. I ran a spool in all my cars over the years because they were also raced alot. The spools were ok but tend to be annoying when turning in a parking lot or if you are trying to push your car around in a driveway if the motor isn't done yet, it is almost impossible to push the car with the front wheels turned.
But, I have a Duster with a stroked big block and if I decide to drive it to one of our local dragstrips and make a few fun passes, I'd have zero confidence in my cone-type factory posi unit(8.75). A spool with some 3.23 gears and some drag radials might have to be the way to go.


I had the cone style in my 8 3/4.. it lasted 600+
passes... but I spent a whole day(maybe more) lapping
in the cones so they were perfect.. both tires hooked
the same until the caps blew off.. then I changed to the
alum center with a spool.. I drove a spool on the street
for more than 5 years during the summer
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Re: Spool, truetrac, clutch sure grip or other for street/strip? [Re: StealthWedge67] #2084581
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Originally Posted By StealthWedge67
I ran a locker for a few years. It wasn't loud or anything, and it stood up to my abuse. Only thing I didn't like was that it pushed the car left & right when on & off the throttle. Wasn't really a big deal, until I started doing more bracket racing, and suddenly racing the stripe became an adventure when the car wanted to dart around at 115mph when I chopped the throttle.

I went to a spool this past winter, and I really can't figure out why people make a big deal out if it. Knowing what I know now, I'd choose a spool over the locker for a street / strip car. Sure the inside tire chatters on tight slow corners..... big deal.




Its funny as I hear some say that about their Lockers but I have never had that happen with mine. It always stays straight and true on or off the gas in the traps. My exhaust is not real loud but I never hear much of the clicking. But a little electric fuel pump noise dont bother me either and I see alot complain about that also. I grew up with hearing the electric pump when the key was turned on as you knew it was working that way and it is a muscle car/hotrod so a little noise dont phase me any. But honestly I have never felt the side to side pull when on and off the throttle in the traps or anytime for that matter. Guess thats why I like my Detroit Locker so much and dont want to run a spool on the street. Course many have their prefrences and you have to use what you like. Ron

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