Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 5 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: CJD AUTOMOTIVE] #2068213
05/06/16 11:54 AM
05/06/16 11:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,486
SoCal
Brian Hafliger Offline OP
master
Brian Hafliger  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,486
SoCal
Originally Posted By CJD AUTOMOTIVE
Not to hijack the thread, but spoke with Don Flanagan at Crower yesterday, and the Crower stainless rocker shafts for this head will be ready in about 4 weeks....so I'm told. You will have to mill the cast stands and bolt on their steel stands and rockers. Just an option for you guys wanting to run high spring pressures or endurance applications.


Hey, options are a great thing!

Also spoke with TD on their progress, single shaft kit is done and has a part#...which I will post with all the other info once finished. Looks like as much as 1.8 ratio with the single shaft kit! They are now moving on to the individual kit, and then they will mock up on a 48° block to see if that's a possibility.
I'm also trying to find out when the Victor head will be readily available to purchase from anywhere....


Brian Hafliger
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2068416
05/06/16 06:00 PM
05/06/16 06:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 226
S
sst404b Offline
enthusiast
sst404b  Offline
enthusiast
S

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 226
Its good to see people working on parts for these heads because they are the best thing out there right now that is close to a bolt on item. The Ritter block is as good a block that you can buy and compares to even the best Chevy stuff, but it needs some work to be ready for the application.The goal for this is to run 10.90 @ 150 in Super Street trim and run 8.60s @155 in bracket so the target is around 800 hp. Don't know if we can get there but it's the goal. The plan is to be at Bowling Green for the Sports Nationals the 26th thru 29th of this month,we invite anyone to stop by and visit. I'll have one of the kids post some pics.

Ray Buckner

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2068447
05/06/16 07:00 PM
05/06/16 07:00 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Jason B Offline
member
Jason B  Offline
member

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
ok here are some pictures of the SB Victor heads and rocker arm assemble from Hughes Racing. Just an added note NOTHING fits like advertised so have a good machine shop ready to work!

Jason

IMG_1940.JPGIMG_1941.JPGIMG_1939.JPGIMG_1964.JPG

1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
[img]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload4/23859.png[/img]
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Jason B] #2068457
05/06/16 07:10 PM
05/06/16 07:10 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Jason B Offline
member
Jason B  Offline
member

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
We had J. Allen Sherman at Trumble Racing Engines in Pasadena Texas build the motor and do all of the FITTING/porting/polishing work of the advertised BOLT ON Victor intake and heads LOL! Allen has done a great job thus far and has had many obstacles to overcome along the way. I encourage anyone who wants good quality work done on the new heads to call him as he is now the SB Victor GURU and has figured out all the little quirks to make this combo run! We will be on the DYNO next week and will post results. My next reply will be pictures of the intake before/after pics

IMG_1966.PNG

1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
[img]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload4/23859.png[/img]
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Jason B] #2068460
05/06/16 07:21 PM
05/06/16 07:21 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Jason B Offline
member
Jason B  Offline
member

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Ok here are pictures of the Super Victor intake they list for the heads. It is FAR from a bolt on item as you will see in the pictures. This project has been a labor of love for sure. I hope its all worth it and we reach our goal..... Allen Sherman has worked for 2 full days on the fit just FYI

IMG_1969.JPGIMG_1962.JPGIMG_1963.JPGIMG_1973.JPG

1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
[img]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload4/23859.png[/img]
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Jason B] #2068463
05/06/16 07:29 PM
05/06/16 07:29 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Jason B Offline
member
Jason B  Offline
member

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Ritter block early on in the process... great block but WOW does it need work to make it even come close to putting it together.

IMG_1684[1].JPG

1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
[img]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload4/23859.png[/img]
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Jason B] #2068466
05/06/16 07:36 PM
05/06/16 07:36 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Jason B Offline
member
Jason B  Offline
member

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
And of course I had to share pictures of the car me and POPS have worked so hard on over the last several months. Come check us out at the Sports Nationals in a few weeks and see the SB Victor Motor in person.

Jason

Cuda 1.JPGCuda 4.JPGCuda 2.JPG

1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
[img]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload4/23859.png[/img]
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Jason B] #2068469
05/06/16 07:44 PM
05/06/16 07:44 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 159
Vidor Texas
O
onyxba Offline
member
onyxba  Offline
member
O

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 159
Vidor Texas
Allen is a great guy. They did some work on my xr P7 block a while back. Mike is one of the most talented machinist I have personally seen. You are in good hands. I think I may have met you at Trumbles one night. I saw pictures of your stuff from one of our customers that picked up his rotating assembly. Your project is looking sweet. What day are you dynoing, I would be interested is spying if you didn't mind. Good luck. Brian W.

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: onyxba] #2068471
05/06/16 07:54 PM
05/06/16 07:54 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Jason B Offline
member
Jason B  Offline
member

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
I will keep you posted on Dyno day come on by we have nothing to hide LOL. Now if it was one of our stock/ super stock motors then yea we would be in top secret mode lol


1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
[img]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload4/23859.png[/img]
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2068501
05/06/16 09:59 PM
05/06/16 09:59 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,202
aZLiViN
J
J_BODY Offline
I Live Here
J_BODY  Offline
I Live Here
J

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,202
aZLiViN
Thanks for sharing Jason B. Will be great to see available stuff out gettin it done.

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: J_BODY] #2068525
05/06/16 10:30 PM
05/06/16 10:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,486
SoCal
Brian Hafliger Offline OP
master
Brian Hafliger  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,486
SoCal
We won't be using the SV intake...it won't support big power with out a ton of porting and welding...we'll be adapting an Indy intake to our build...

We'll also be using TD rockers. If you are looking to make more than 700HP, that intake will be a bear to do it with.


Brian Hafliger
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2068611
05/07/16 12:23 AM
05/07/16 12:23 AM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,202
aZLiViN
J
J_BODY Offline
I Live Here
J_BODY  Offline
I Live Here
J

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,202
aZLiViN
well if you want to cut, grind, weld, etc on one Brian... I THINK I know where one is....

...and Jason, I don't ever recall the words "great" and "Ritter block" in the same post. Hoping for the best, the small block community needs it.

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2068647
05/07/16 01:14 AM
05/07/16 01:14 AM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Jason B Offline
member
Jason B  Offline
member

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Geez tough critics in here... I guess the proof will be in dyno sheet and time slip ... BUT being that no one has done any testing on any of the mentioned intakes it's everyone's guess on how much power everything will support or make especially since nobody has a motor running with these heads yet. SO we will hopefully see some real data next week!!

And as far as the Ritter block goes I meant great in the strength department that thing is as meaty as any other brands block and then some. As far as getting it to a point where you can even assemble it well that's a whole completely different story as I said it needed a ton of work but I have no doubt that it will hold up! Hell we made right at 700 HP with a 40yr old stock block and 40 yr old W2s that were full of battle scars and repairs so I guess we will see!!


1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
[img]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload4/23859.png[/img]
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2068699
05/07/16 03:30 AM
05/07/16 03:30 AM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,202
aZLiViN
J
J_BODY Offline
I Live Here
J_BODY  Offline
I Live Here
J

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,202
aZLiViN
I'm sure you've probably heard some of the doom and gloom stories relating to the block. Don't get me wrong... myself as well as many other would love to see builds completed utilizing the block without too many issues. I myself nearly went that route back in 12 when I was starting to piece together my W8 project, but was persuaded to go the R3 route, especially since I work at a dealer and got it at cost. Hindsight being what it is, that was a very good route to go on my part as there are some with paid for unusable Ritter blocks and a member here "Whitedart" got his running, but oh boy has it been a trial by fire. Like I said, I like a good build and appreciate you sharing yours. If you care to disclose some of your trials and tribulations of getting the block to where you were "ready to go", I'd love to hear about it.

Jay

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: J_BODY] #2068738
05/07/16 10:02 AM
05/07/16 10:02 AM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Jason B Offline
member
Jason B  Offline
member

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Honestly Jay the block took a tremendous amount of machine work to get ready for assembly fixing the oil passages, drilling and tapping bolt holes,machining some of the mains so the bearings would fit ECT... IN Ritters defense this is a brand new run of the block and is considerably better than the first he used a new foundry and corrected several issues NOT all but was much better. Bottom line is if you have a good machinist who is patient and knows what he is doing you will be fine we have our block and one other one at Allens shop that about to be a stock eliminator motor since we now know how to fix all the issues! I will tell you this one of the guys in the shop built pro stock engines for a very well known team and stated the block when it was done looked to be as beefy as any pro stock style block so take that as you will. We have been all over that damn thing and can't find anything else so we shall see. Hell before the W2 heads took a crap on the dyno we had already made 10 pulls and the block was good to go! We have been in contact with Ritter and advised him of the issues weather he corrects them or not is on him but thus far I don't see any reason not to use the block if you have a good machinist who knows mopars.


1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
[img]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload4/23859.png[/img]
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Jason B] #2068741
05/07/16 10:08 AM
05/07/16 10:08 AM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Jason B Offline
member
Jason B  Offline
member

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Or just ship it down to Allen and let him fix it for you. Here is the assembled engine with the W2s ready for the Dyno. I will keep everyone updated on progress.

image.jpeg

1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
[img]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload4/23859.png[/img]
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Jason B] #2068769
05/07/16 11:23 AM
05/07/16 11:23 AM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,036
bean town ....Ca
W
WHITEDART Offline
master
WHITEDART  Offline
master
W

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,036
bean town ....Ca
Are you guys bushing the lifters... or did you find a lifter that work without bushing them


In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's
5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2068818
05/07/16 01:11 PM
05/07/16 01:11 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Jason B Offline
member
Jason B  Offline
member

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Bottom line is there are NO R3 blocks available and never will be again unless you get someone to sell you one. So either find a way to deal with Ritter and get his stuff to work or run what JUNK is left out there. The Victor head on a Ritter block has big potential and we are lucky to have someone making anything. Also guys don't forget we have to use these products and find a way to make them work or they will quit making them then WHAT??? We have nothing!!! We plan to share what we learn to help get this stuff out there and running


1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
[img]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload4/23859.png[/img]
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2068822
05/07/16 01:17 PM
05/07/16 01:17 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
Jason B Offline
member
Jason B  Offline
member

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Mopar
We did not bush lifter bores ,don't the part number right now ,but it was a comp cam .We did grind block to clear guide bars.


1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
[img]https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload4/23859.png[/img]
Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Jason B] #2068901
05/07/16 04:36 PM
05/07/16 04:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,486
SoCal
Brian Hafliger Offline OP
master
Brian Hafliger  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,486
SoCal
Originally Posted By Jason B
Bottom line is there are NO R3 blocks available and never will be again unless you get someone to sell you one. So either find a way to deal with Ritter and get his stuff to work or run what JUNK is left out there. The Victor head on a Ritter block has big potential and we are lucky to have someone making anything. Also guys don't forget we have to use these products and find a way to make them work or they will quit making them then WHAT??? We have nothing!!! We plan to share what we learn to help get this stuff out there and running


Funny this comes up...Kent is talking to me right now about his aluminum block...we might end up trying it for our Victor build...I'm waiting on a price from him but either we'll do that or go to a 9.200 deck block.


Brian Hafliger
Page 5 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1