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Screen in lifter valley? #2057432
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I want to put some form of screen into the lifter valley, but don't want a lot of oil piling up. Can anyone show me pictures, and what materials you used to do this to an iron block?


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Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: gregsdart] #2057434
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like this you mean?

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i did it to this block as well.

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Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: gregsdart] #2057437
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Nice work, Rebel.


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I know it's hard to see, but this is the only pic I have of it. This is the screen setup I have in the 436" sb chevy.

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Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: rebel] #2057648
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Originally Posted By rebel
i did it to this block as well.


That is so cool!!!

I can understand why you want to do this trick. I built a 460 Ford motor for a truck swap and one of the retainer rings that restricts the cup in a hydraulic lifter came out and ended up jammed in the oil pump gears. Fortunately the oil pump drive shaft broke and the engine stopped sick

I dodged a bullet there.


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Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: gregsdart] #2057673
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Nice work on those screens up I need to go smaller mesh to stop needle bearings from getting down to the oil pump ,gear drive or oil pump gear. Anybody run anything with smaller mesh? I figured that it might work to put a finer mesh over the screen in the oil pan, but that might not protect the gear drive?


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Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: gregsdart] #2058061
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I've been putting screen in the valley for years..
I use a 1/8 mesh that I buy at the hardware store..
its metal(sorta like large screen door screen).. I
cut it to fit and run it up the back wall on my small
blocks..JB Weld to glue it in place... its saved my butt
a couple of times when stuff broke.. rocker parts and push
rods and lash caps.. I'll see if I have pics but I doubt
it.. no one normally wants to see stuff like that
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Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: gregsdart] #2058079
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Moroso sells a kit for a BBC that works. Comes with screens and epoxy.

Good Luck

Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: gregsdart] #2058184
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Originally Posted By gregsdart
Nice work on those screens up I need to go smaller mesh to stop needle bearings from getting down to the oil pump ,gear drive or oil pump gear. Anybody run anything with smaller mesh? I figured that it might work to put a finer mesh over the screen in the oil pan, but that might not protect the gear drive?


You could easily replicate this design with a finer mesh. I had seen a rocker arm break, fall into the valley & jammed the cam, snapped it so a whole lot of valves took a hit. A lot of damage from a minor incident. You can mold the end of the mesh to make a nice clearence guard for the cam drive. Sorry no pics.

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The needles from the bearings are only about .060, so I will see what is available for screen that size.


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Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: gregsdart] #2058830
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Greg, here is where you can get some small mesh screen:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#stainless-steel-mesh/=122nkc6

I would be tempted to use the 30x30 mesh size found in the Strainer-Grade Type 304 Stainless Steel Wire Cloth listing.


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Thanks M-D I just ordered the 30x30 strainer mesh. Makes the most sense, will stop anything big enough to shear off the oil pump drive or do major damage up


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Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: gregsdart] #2058868
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one question keeps reoccurring to me. how small can you go before drain back problems crop up ? could that some how be helped if there were more drain back [hole] area added to the valley ?
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Make sure you attach it with screws. Epoxy won't work with your alky.........

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Drain back won't be a problem as long as the oil is at operating temperature. Preheating the oil is best.

Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: gregsdart] #2058941
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Thanks for the tip on screws Greendart. I may try and come up with something that will snap into place, we will see how creative I can get. I run my motor hot, so drain back during a run shouldn't be an issue, and I have an Acusump as well.


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Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: gregsdart] #2058960
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Gregsdart thanks for starting this thread i was planning on starting a similar thread last week but you beat me to the punch.
Ive been doing some thinking about this and i ordered some of the SS mesh as well, im going to incorporate both the larger mesh for a top layer and for support and use the tighter mesh under the heavier mesh so it will hold its shape. Then sandwich some kind of a mount like what rebel posted to hold everthing together.
Does drilling and tapping the block in this fashion weaking the cam tunnel?
Thanks all


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Re: Screen in lifter valley? [Re: turbo toad] #2058965
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Originally Posted By turbo toad
Gregsdart thanks for starting this thread i was planning on starting a similar thread last week but you beat me to the punch.
Ive been doing some thinking about this and i ordered some of the SS mesh as well, im going to incorporate both the larger mesh for a top layer and for support and use the tighter mesh under the heavier mesh so it will hold its shape. Then sandwich some kind of a mount like what rebel posted to hold everthing together.
Does drilling and tapping the block in this fashion weaking the cam tunnel?
Thanks all


No the drilling and tapping doesnt hurt unless
it was a BIG bolt.. 3/16 or 1/4 is plenty big
enough to hold that stuff
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Thank Pbody 1/4 20 should do the trick atleast thats what i was planning on using
Im planning on using some small tubing and some fender washers for my mount

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