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Aluminum heads #2044641
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what compression are you running with your aluminum heads?
..what are your cam specs and maximum timing?

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my Indy -1 heads are 12.6:1 cam is 279/284@50 @ 38* total timing
my Stage 6 heads are 10.6:1 cam is 272/279@50 @ 35* total timing

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Indy -1 345cc 14:1 cam is 267/274 @ .050" with 1.7 rockers


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Old 451 - B1-B/S Head 11:1 compression (no quench, entire piston dished) 251/251@0.050 Solid Roller, 33* total timing. OK on pump gas, usually ran 50% pump/50% 110 race gas when I raced it just to be safe.

These next two have about 0.040" quench

New 499 - Victor MW Head, 12.4:1 compression, 272 (or 274, I forgot)@ 0.050 Solid Roller, 34-36 Total timing (still tuning.) Ran OK on pump gas for a very limited time, and did not try WOT on pump, usualy ran on 110 race gas or mix of race and pump. Switched to E-85 last year and still tuning it.

505 - Stealth heads. A bit over 10:1 (I think 10.3:1?), 236/242@ 0.050 hydraulic Roller. EFI so timing varies with load and I'm still tuning this. Pump gas only, but it has pinged before (don't know the exact timing because I was using the Edelbrock XT hand-held EFI controller and changing the global timing.

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496. Ed heads. .038" quench. 10.2:1 CR. It has a MM lobe mechanical FT 243@.050", .55" lift and 108 deg CL. The cooling system keeps water temp right on the 180 degree stat when rolling.

It is EFI. Maximum "mechanical" timing is 35 degrees. It runs a curve and up to 50 degrees timing under light load cruise with a manual OD transmission. It has pinged at lower RPM when I was experimenting with (pushing) the advance curve and cruise vacuum advance. Back off a little and it is good.

On recent freshen after two hard long track days no signs of heavy load detonation so it seems to like the 35 degrees at WOT.

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12.1.1 comp home ported rpm`s(no flow #`s)Isky solid roller .680-.660 276-281 @ .050 timing locked at 35..............470 BB stroker Street car...........

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Re: Aluminum heads [Re: can.al] #2045427
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Street or Race ?
Lots of Race responses, so I'll give a "Street"
We just put 10.8:1 static on some Ported Stealths, used an XS282S Comp Solid Flat Tappet with 1.6 Rockers... good for 587 hp/ 592 Trq on the SF902 with 91 Octane, 33* BTDC


Better to be a "has been" than a "never was".
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Originally Posted By Challenger340
Street or Race ?
Lots of Race responses, so I'll give a "Street"
We just put 10.8:1 static on some Ported Stealths, used an XS282S Comp Solid Flat Tappet with 1.6 Rockers... good for 587 hp/ 592 Trq on the SF902 with 91 Octane, 33* BTDC


Thats some serious power, how ported were these Stealths?

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Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
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Originally Posted By GTX MATT
Originally Posted By Challenger340
Street or Race ?
Lots of Race responses, so I'll give a "Street"
We just put 10.8:1 static on some Ported Stealths, used an XS282S Comp Solid Flat Tappet with 1.6 Rockers... good for 587 hp/ 592 Trq on the SF902 with 91 Octane, 33* BTDC


Thats some serious power, how ported were these Stealths?


We Ported a very Fat curve on our SuperFlow SF750 Bench, but just under 300cfm @ .600".
I can post the Flow Sheet if you like ? but off my head I think 285cfm by .500", 291cfm @ .550" and 297cfm @ .600".
About 10-12 Hours Port & prep.
NOT cost effective to spend any more on what is really an "entry level" Cylinder Head ?


Better to be a "has been" than a "never was".
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Was that a stock stroke 440?


Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
Re: Aluminum heads [Re: can.al] #2045613
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10.9 compression, timing locked at 35*. 394 ci small block runs on 93 octane. 255/266 @.050


1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
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Originally Posted By GTX MATT
Was that a stock stroke 440?


400 Block based "451", but yes stock 3.75" (440)Stroke.


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Mine street as it runs good on 92 pump. 440/493 stroker with 4.15 crank. Basic EZ heads with mild porting and 10.6 comp with the D-dish pistons and .045 quench. Solid flat tappet 264 & 270 @ .050 with .585 & .592 lift on a 110 LSA in eng at a 106 ICL. 36 total timing and no ping at all on 92 pump. Ron

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Originally Posted By Challenger340
Originally Posted By GTX MATT
Was that a stock stroke 440?


400 Block based "451", but yes stock 3.75" (440)Stroke.


Thats a strong running engine, darn impressive for a somewhat mild cam

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Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
Re: Aluminum heads [Re: can.al] #2045913
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572", Indy -1 , 58 cc, 15-1, flat top w/10cc notches, .005" deck height, 285/292@112, LCA, 32 degrees, Renegade 114 or 116 fuel, no quicker with more timing.
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Currently running 11.5:1 on 91 octane. Timing is around 10 degrees? i think... i never really have to mess with it. Good head design FTW!

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I run Stealths with 12.5 domes on the street.Cam is Comp .588 lift and IIRC around 320 duration.Run 34 timing on my MSD.It will clatter under heavy load with 93.If I dont really get into it I can drive foreve on 93.Mix in some 110 race fuel and its good all around.Rocky


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Street combo

360 zero deck slugs, ported, lightly milled rpm heads for a 11-1 ratio
Small solid roller, 250*@.050/.600 lift
In at 34*

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Ported Stealths, 10.5:1 CR, 91 pump gas. 235/241 duration at .050, .545 lift hydraulic roller. Never a hint of detonation.

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was 10.2:1 on Indy-1 255 cnc raised port heads and 408 cubes
New will be 11.5:1 with same heads and 410 cubes, still rocking that 93 pump gas laugh


2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads
1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel.
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200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69
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