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Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? #2040651
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For as long as I can remember, most people Ive known including mechanics and people on forums have always talked trash about quadrajets. I really dont know much about them, other than they came stock on thousands and thousands of vehicles for many years. Why do so many people hate them? Are they hard to tune or something? Poor design?

Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Adam71Charger] #2040691
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Great carb in my opinion.


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512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim
2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5

Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: CSK] #2040697
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Originally Posted By csk
Great carb in my opinion.



Agreed...

Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Adam71Charger] #2040698
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When all you know is Holley anything else is "bad".

The QJ is a fine carb, but it is not a Holley and you have to learn it.


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They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
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Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Adam71Charger] #2040711
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I ran QJ's for years on my Buicks. Very simple and easy to tune. They have the same issue as a TQ, the main wells can leak and cause a bad rich problem. Epoxy them, toss in a kit and learn to leave the freaking scondary spring alone.


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Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Adam71Charger] #2040724
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The QJ is probably the most sophisticated street carb ever put on American cars. They work on race cars too although most guys use a Holley. But if you wander thru the pits at a NHRA national event you'll see a lot of QJ carbs on stockers that haul the mail.

Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Supercuda] #2040735
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Originally Posted By Supercuda
When all you know is Holley anything else is "bad".

The QJ is a fine carb, but it is not a Holley and you have to learn it.


This. ^^^^^^

Excellent carb if you know the ins and outs of them. I don't unfortunately but know a guy that can really make one work. up
I think the biggest problem with them was that no one knew very much about them (kinda like a ThermoQuad on a Mopar wink biggrin ).


Tim


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'17 Challenger SXT (Wifeys car wink )
Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Supercuda] #2040737
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Originally Posted By Supercuda
When all you know is Holley anything else is "bad".

The QJ is a fine carb, but it is not a Holley and you have to learn it.


iagree

When a person does not understand how something works and they try to apply there EXPERT knowledge based on another design, and it doesn't work, they criticize it.

Nuff SAID twocents

Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Adam71Charger] #2040806
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Agreed, Q-Jets and Thermo-Quads are excellent carbs (and similar in many ways)

Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Adam71Charger] #2040867
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They are complicated Carbs for a lot of people, and it scares them. Holleys and AFBs are pretty simple.
A Carter AVS is another more complex carb that got slammed as being a "bad carb" by those that didn't want to learn how they worked.

For most guys, Carbs are a mystery box that does strange stuff and they either work, or they don't. Then you add metering rods, adjustable air doors, and a second "choke blade" and most people think it can't be good.

These days, when good cores are reaching close to or beyond 30 years old, finding a good base to start from is getting more difficult. The whole idea of how any carb functions is getting complex to most current mechanics that have never messed with them. Finding someone capable of making the simple ones work correctly is hard enough, forget finding someone that actually knows how to make the complex ones work. Gene

Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: poorboy] #2040895
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I think your average hot rodder just really dont know how to work on them so they dont like them. But I agree they are a very good carb and when set up right work very good. Ron

Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: 383man] #2040905
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All the parts and pieces scare most when disassembled but really quite easy to do if you pay attention and the work great.

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Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Adam71Charger] #2040918
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Exactly! iagree

Anything (basic AFB below) can look intimidating until you've gotten familiar with it

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Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Adam71Charger] #2040919
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I just put headers on a buddy's 72 Chevy truck and have had his apart several times in the past few weeks changing jets and metering rods....They are great except for the choke rod is a PITA to install.


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Rick
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Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Adam71Charger] #2040932
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Its a TRAP!
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I prefer to tune via Diablo now-a-days. But I can still rebuild and tune any carb blindfolded. IMHO Holley's can't hold a tune for more than 5 mins. Q-J's & bogs all the way.


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Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: DARTH V8Я] #2040945
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Originally Posted By Ice~Eagle
I can still rebuild and tune any carb blindfolded.


Is that a fact???


Sure like to see this dumped in yer lap...

Don't forget the blind-fold...

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Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Adam71Charger] #2040948
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Its a TRAP!
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Apparently the word "exaggeration" eludes you for some reason. I'd get that looked at. wave boogie laugh2 thumbs


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I recall your posts from the past...


Especially with regards to the Silver Bullet...


I'd say you have 'exaggeration' down pretty well...

Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: Adam71Charger] #2040954
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Re: Why do Quadrajet carbs have such a bad reputation? [Re: RSNOMO] #2040959
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Originally Posted By RS23U1G
I recall your posts from the past...


Especially with regards to the Silver Bullet...


I'd say you have 'exaggeration' down pretty well...

Silver Bullet? I'm more of a budweiser kinda guy. In other words, I have no idea what you're talking about... refresh my aging memory via PM as not to clutter this thread.


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