Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc #2031094
03/14/16 06:30 PM
03/14/16 06:30 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,418
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula Offline OP
I Live Here
Dragula  Offline OP
I Live Here

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,418
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Got me an 03 auto Sport quad cab, but i miss the stick and this one has it...Opinions?


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Dragula] #2031187
03/14/16 09:36 PM
03/14/16 09:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,357
central Florida
VL21 Offline
pro stock
VL21  Offline
pro stock

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,357
central Florida

No personal knowledge, but I know guys with them ... and they all seem to have the same complaint.

A miserable shifting 6 speed.

No idea if it is the same trans, but at work we have a Super Duty, V10/6spd, and it is the worst shifting thing I have ever driven. Gutless no torque v10 and always in the wrong gear, easy to be in the wrong gear.

One friend (retired OTR driver) spent fairly big bucks to buy a really nice N Georgia dually Dodge, had plans to work it a little do deliver/pickup travel trailers ... hated the trans so much he dumped the truck.

But I have not personally driven a Dodge with the 6 gear.

So, really I don't know a damn thing about them, all second hand.

I would drive one a while if you have a chance.


Just my thoughts.


It takes gasoline to interest me.
Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: VL21] #2031366
03/15/16 12:54 AM
03/15/16 12:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 43,629
Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy
Rhinodart Offline
Rhinotruck
Rhinodart  Offline
Rhinotruck

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 43,629
Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy
Had a 2007 6.7 G56 6-speed for hauling a 48' triple axle enclosed and I had MAJOR issues with the G56 going through three of them in 100K miles after buying the truck with about that on it. Engine was find except for the constant rotten egg smell of the emissions crap and having to burn it off all the time. eyes Rebuilt the junk American Axle twice too. Got rid of the dual-mass flywheel and junk clutch for a South Bend set-up but had issues with it too. Besides that I liked the power... shruggy

Last edited by Rhinodart; 03/15/16 12:55 AM.

The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.

JB Rhinehart, Realist

A-Body's RULE!
Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Rhinodart] #2031441
03/15/16 02:51 AM
03/15/16 02:51 AM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,418
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula Offline OP
I Live Here
Dragula  Offline OP
I Live Here

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,418
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Originally Posted By Rhinodart
Had a 2007 6.7 G56 6-speed for hauling a 48' triple axle enclosed and I had MAJOR issues with the G56 going through three of them in 100K miles after buying the truck with about that on it. Engine was find except for the constant rotten egg smell of the emissions crap and having to burn it off all the time. eyes Rebuilt the junk American Axle twice too. Got rid of the dual-mass flywheel and junk clutch for a South Bend set-up but had issues with it too. Besides that I liked the power... shruggy


Not good...I guess I will drop the idea.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Dragula] #2031510
03/15/16 10:22 AM
03/15/16 10:22 AM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
DaytonaTurbo Offline
Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
What was the last year for the 5sp? I've driven a few late 90's/early 00's ones with it and they shifted fine.

Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2031922
03/15/16 10:12 PM
03/15/16 10:12 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,418
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula Offline OP
I Live Here
Dragula  Offline OP
I Live Here

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,418
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
What was the last year for the 5sp? I've driven a few late 90's/early 00's ones with it and they shifted fine.



The 5-speeds ended in '92 I believe. I have owned a pair of '01 six speeds, and they were awesome. Both with 3.55 gears and just slightly modded. Both towed 10k without issue all year long. Sadly, bothere were wiped out by drunks.

So I am in a quandary....Look at even newer 2500 6.4 gas trucks with 8 speed or stay with what I have an hope it lasts. Can't afford a newer 6-speed automatic diesel, and I doubt I can afford a 6.4....Not to mention, what happens if I get a bigger trailer.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Dragula] #2032316
03/16/16 12:26 PM
03/16/16 12:26 PM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
DaytonaTurbo Offline
Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
Originally Posted By Dragula

The 5-speeds ended in '92 I believe. I have owned a pair of '01 six speeds, and they were awesome.



Huh? My buddy's 01 V10 truck was a 5sp, and my 97 is a 5sp. My buddy's 93 still had the old getrag 5sp which was discontinued shortly after in favor of the NV trans.

Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Dragula] #2032328
03/16/16 12:40 PM
03/16/16 12:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,037
Tulsa OK
Bad340fish Offline
master
Bad340fish  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,037
Tulsa OK
Yeah I don't think the six speed made an appearence until 99 and they were rare. I think it was the HO (ETH?) option in 01 that the six speed was standard on. I know you could still get a 5 speed in 01 behind the non HO engines.


68 Barracuda Formula S 340
Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Bad340fish] #2032375
03/16/16 02:05 PM
03/16/16 02:05 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,418
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula Offline OP
I Live Here
Dragula  Offline OP
I Live Here

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,418
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
My understanding was the Getrog was not introduced until mid 2007 and up until then, you could get a NV 6-speed...I have owned two. My understanding is the earlier 5-speed was also bullet proof, but did not offer enough gears for the towing guys. I loved the pair of 6-speeds I had and miss them. According to folks on here the Getrog from 2007 on up is the one to stay away from.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Dragula] #2032639
03/16/16 08:33 PM
03/16/16 08:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,965
Greenville, PA
redraptor Offline
master
redraptor  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,965
Greenville, PA
Stay with rust free older trucks I'll think you'll be happier. Is '07 the 1st year for the 6.7?

Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: redraptor] #2032653
03/16/16 09:00 PM
03/16/16 09:00 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,418
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula Offline OP
I Live Here
Dragula  Offline OP
I Live Here

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,418
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Originally Posted By redraptor
Stay with rust free older trucks I'll think you'll be happier. Is '07 the 1st year for the 6.7?


Going to test drive a 2014 with a 6-speed auto this week. found one locally, but not sure if I want the payment.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Dragula] #2032731
03/16/16 11:04 PM
03/16/16 11:04 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,484
Minneapolis, MN
H
hemi70se Offline
top fuel
hemi70se  Offline
top fuel
H

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,484
Minneapolis, MN
For the most part you don't see problems with the manual transmissions unless you are are hotshot hauler and you are pulling a massive long and heavy trailer. Those are the guys having issues. When the 6.7's came out in January 2007 all the automatics switched to the 68RFE which is a 6 speed. That's why the manual trans was so sought after before with the 5.9s (common sense to want a 6 speed trans vs a 4 speed AT). Now that the auto's are all 6 speed it just doesn't really make sense to manually shift gears.

Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: hemi70se] #2032978
03/17/16 10:45 AM
03/17/16 10:45 AM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
DaytonaTurbo Offline
Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
Originally Posted By hemi70se
That's why the manual trans was so sought after before with the 5.9s (common sense to want a 6 speed trans vs a 4 speed AT). Now that the auto's are all 6 speed it just doesn't really make sense to manually shift gears.


That and the 4sp automatics were crap. If you hit 200k miles and hadn't rebuild yours yet, you would be very soon. The 5sp's were better in that regard, minus their 5th gear problem, which was later solved by the aftermarket. However almost 350k miles on mine and it's still going good, knock on wood. IIRC, the first gen 6sp's had the same problem except with 6th gear.

Now with the 6sp autos, you're right, the only reason to shift on your own is because you want to. That and trans repairs later on down the road are going to be a hell of a lot easier on the wallet with the stick shift.

Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Dragula] #2033147
03/17/16 02:29 PM
03/17/16 02:29 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,124
N.W. Florida
F
Fat_Mike Offline
master
Fat_Mike  Offline
master
F

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,124
N.W. Florida
My dad has an '07 3500, 4X4. Power: Plenty. Fuel Consumption: Not Good. Transmission Life: Don't Know. Rides pretty rough unloaded, but hauled his travel trailer like it wasn't even there. His biggest complaint was the poor fuel mileage. As for longevity of the trans, I don't know. His has less than 30,000 on the clock. I had no problem with the way it shifts. I've driven 7.5/10/16 ton tractors in the military, and like those, you shift with the RPM's. I'd imagine that power shifting ain't gonna work. I didn't have any trouble shifting his without clutch...

Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Dragula] #2033349
03/17/16 07:58 PM
03/17/16 07:58 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,965
Greenville, PA
redraptor Offline
master
redraptor  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,965
Greenville, PA
Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By redraptor
Stay with rust free older trucks I'll think you'll be happier. Is '07 the 1st year for the 6.7?


Going to test drive a 2014 with a 6-speed auto this week. found one locally, but not sure if I want the payment.

Well, you've got a couple under your belt already to judge power verses mileage, so it's your call. drive

Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Dragula] #2033473
03/17/16 11:16 PM
03/17/16 11:16 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 637
SoMd, USA
1
135sohc Offline
mopar
135sohc  Offline
mopar
1

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 637
SoMd, USA
The switch over from the NV5600 to the Mercedes G56 was a mid 2005 transition. The NV4500 stayed around until roughly the same time as the 5600 until it died away also.

The ford 6 speed is a ZF-6. It has absolutely nothing in common with NVG or the mercedes units.

Re: Opinion on a 2007 6.7 with manual trans for hauling etc [Re: Dragula] #2035306
03/20/16 09:12 PM
03/20/16 09:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,035
Missouri U.S.A.
7
71yelladustr Offline
super stock
71yelladustr  Offline
super stock
7

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,035
Missouri U.S.A.
Don't be scared of a G56. They shift good for a HD manual trans. The worst thing about them
Is the dual mass flywheel and weenie clutch that's installed in front of them. I've owned and worked on all of them. They all have their issues.


392 gen III hemi on E-85 727 trans Dana 60
10.02@134






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1