Re: Hemi Blocks on the chopping block?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
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02/25/16 03:10 PM
02/25/16 03:10 PM
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Give up on the hobby or give up on the brand?
Tony doesn't care about any of this. When a person can make a phone call, give 'em a credit card number and 3 days later have a new 1000HP 565 sitting on the floor for $17k, you have to think about it. Do you really want to deal with a bunch of used up, hand me down, patched up stuff or "new" parts that require major machine work or repairs to be usable?
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Hemi Blocks on the chopping block?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
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02/26/16 11:58 AM
02/26/16 11:58 AM
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Who is that one out of all the current vendors that stands by their work? you can have 100% trust in the quality of any block you buy from Bob George
home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster
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Re: Hemi Blocks on the chopping block?
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02/26/16 12:13 PM
02/26/16 12:13 PM
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Are there any quality issues with KB stuff? I only had 2 issues w/ my KB hemi block. 1st was a couple of the lifter bores were a little tight. Easily fixed w/ a light honing. 2nd was the front counterweight on my 4.5" stroke Callies crank actually hit some of the webbing in the block and needed a little clearancing. Not a big deal at all, but did surprise me. Glad I caught it in the mockup stage. The rods all cleared just fine. Naturally there was a lot of clearancing to be done for the pushrods, but that's to be expected.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Hemi Blocks on the chopping block?
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02/26/16 12:14 PM
02/26/16 12:14 PM
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Are there any quality issues with KB stuff? They are almost ready to go right off the truck but you have to plan ahead. If you want one for NEXT year order it today. Not a big deal for some but a big issue for the "I want it tomorrow crew". The Indy blocks are nice too but be prepared to spend more money on it before its race ready.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Hemi Blocks on the chopping block?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
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02/26/16 12:50 PM
02/26/16 12:50 PM
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I actually just got off the phone w/ HP Performance and they ARE making blocks. They got restarted recently after being down for a couple years after their initial launch...that was the last I'd heard and didn't know they were up and running again. The blocks are aluminum, hemi or wedge, tall deck or low deck. None in stock b/c they go out as fast as he gets them in. Should have more available to ship in about 3 weeks and hopefully by mid year he'll have a bunch in stock ready to ship...that's the goal. VERY nice guy to talk to and from everything I've heard about their blocks, I would not hesitate to use one. HP Performance 865-310-7513
Sure seems like a good thing w/ KB being tough to deal with lately and Indy being, well, Indy.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Hemi Blocks on the chopping block?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
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02/26/16 02:04 PM
02/26/16 02:04 PM
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He told me he had to change partners, get his equipment back, get everything set up again, etc. in the past couple years. Sounds like he has it rolling again now.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Hemi Blocks on the chopping block?
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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02/26/16 02:50 PM
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Thank you 8sec and the rest on here.
I'll pass this info along to my friend and if he indeed gets some kind of refund, he can then give the business to HP or who ever else is in the market with some good honest products. I also will suggest Bob George as a supplier to him or any others.
In hindsight, the one good thing I've found with some block families is that some are/have been exempt from hard core abuse depending on the chassis that they served in. These engines such as the 318's-360's 383-400's-and some 440's served in station wagons, some trucks and most full size C-bodies. To the contrary, the A-B and E bodies with 340's -360's- 383's, 440's and Hemis tend to be a crap shoot since they have probably ingested some level of abuse with the 340 and Hemi being the kings of pain themselves.
In this particular case, what I hate most is that with an honest 5+K down on a NEW block, it should not be useless junk and eclipse anything the old blocks endured. I totally understand the usual machining, clearances, decking, deburring, cleaning,etc. but none of that should come to a halt as a result of poor castings and or QC.
Rejects have been around since the beginning of mass manufacturing, but they should make the junk pile and not the in-stock pile to the public.
Heck, a sick Elephant from birth is truly an Elephant in the sick room.
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Re: Hemi Blocks on the chopping block?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
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02/26/16 04:41 PM
02/26/16 04:41 PM
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B G Racing
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If anyone is interested we recently purchased a complete new hemi engine and it is now for sale.This engine has never been run and features all machine work completed"balanced and blueprinted" and assembled.We will disassemble it for buyers inspection and can offer it as a long or short block.If interested contact AJ@ BGR 412-216-4727 Also be carefull of any hemis on the internet,ebag/craplist and others,we have had many customers buy block/heads/cranks and misc parts that turn out to be total junk. Thanks to Hemi Fred and others for your respectful comments.
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