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1970 AM radio voltage? #2018430
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I'm having trouble getting an AM radio working in my 1970 Sp. Satellite. I checked voltage at the fuse box. The main red wire terminal showed 10.9 volts, but the red w/ white tracer terminal (for the radio) only showed .01 volts. Surely,that's not enough to operate the radio, right? I have already cleaned all the connections at the firewall bulkhead. Any info. or advice is greatly appreciated.

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Is the key on?

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Nope! I thought it was hot wired!! Now, I feel like a dope. However,the reason I didn't was because the wiring to the radio appeared to be hot wired. Can you tell me if the 10.9 v looks ok at the red wire?

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Can you tell me if the 10.9 v looks ok at the red wire?
No, system charging voltage should be in the 13's & even key on should be higher than that (10.9).


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It should be the same volts as measured across your battery posts which is 12.6 on a fully charged battery.

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Well, the battle goes on. One thing I discovered was that the voltage coming into the fuse box (red w/ white tracer) at bottom of fuse was 12.3v, but at the top of fuse was only 11.4v. I cleaned the fuse holder and installed a different 20A fuse. This got me 12.3v top and bottom. Unfortunately, with key on, the radio hot wire still was all messed up. It would read from 2.5 to 11.2v from turning the key on different times. Even at 11.2, the radio would not work. I ran a jumper hot wire from battery to radio and shazam, the radio worked great. That speaker (from a '69 RR) has not made sound since 1975. But I still have my radio wire voltage problem. I wonder if the ignition key switch socket is the problem? The switch was new 2-3 yrs. ago. What do you fellows think, now? It's hard to think real well when you're working on this for hours in 29 degree temp. Thanks for any additional ideas!

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Check at the radio fuse for corroded terminals, etc, like you did on the other fuse. check voltage both sides of the fuse, should be battery voltage.

Re: 1970 AM radio voltage? [Re: 69/70 Plymies] #2019335
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Originally Posted By 69/70 Plymies
Well, the battle goes on. One thing I discovered was that the voltage coming into the fuse box (red w/ white tracer) at bottom of fuse was 12.3v, but at the top of fuse was only 11.4v. I cleaned the fuse holder and installed a different 20A fuse. This got me 12.3v top and bottom. Unfortunately, with key on, the radio hot wire still was all messed up. It would read from 2.5 to 11.2v from turning the key on different times. Even at 11.2, the radio would not work. I ran a jumper hot wire from battery to radio and shazam, the radio worked great. That speaker (from a '69 RR) has not made sound since 1975. But I still have my radio wire voltage problem. I wonder if the ignition key switch socket is the problem? The switch was new 2-3 yrs. ago. What do you fellows think, now? It's hard to think real well when you're working on this for hours in 29 degree temp. Thanks for any additional ideas!

sounds like the wire from the fuse to the radio needs replaced because you got 12.3v top & bottom of the fuse.
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Re: 1970 AM radio voltage? [Re: 69/70 Plymies] #2019347
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Originally Posted By 69/70 Plymies
Well, the battle goes on. One thing I discovered was that the voltage coming into the fuse box (red w/ white tracer) at bottom of fuse was 12.3v, but at the top of fuse was only 11.4v. I cleaned the fuse holder and installed a different 20A fuse. This got me 12.3v top and bottom. Unfortunately, with key on, the radio hot wire still was all messed up. It would read from 2.5 to 11.2v from turning the key on different times. Even at 11.2, the radio would not work. I ran a jumper hot wire from battery to radio and shazam, the radio worked great. That speaker (from a '69 RR) has not made sound since 1975. But I still have my radio wire voltage problem. I wonder if the ignition key switch socket is the problem? The switch was new 2-3 yrs. ago. What do you fellows think, now? It's hard to think real well when you're working on this for hours in 29 degree temp. Thanks for any additional ideas!

4 Speed or Automatic? The Back Up Lights power (white wire) pigtails off of the Radio power wire at the Radio Connector. I had a beauty of a short in the Radio Power wire at the top of the Ash Reciever from rubbing. Look for a short and put it in neutral if it's a 4Speed. My aftermarket Ignition switch is hit or miss in Accessories position, that could be a problem also.

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To Pynzo: 4 speed car. I put a new aftermarket ign. switch in 2-3 yrs. ago. The old one just pulled right out and I just slipped the new one in. Later, I read the proper procedure in the service manual and it was a lot more involved than what I did. Could this be a problem, too? Can the socket for the ign. switch be worn out to the extreme of having to replace the entire steering column? Hopefully not! What did you do to remedy your problem with the Accessories position? Thanks for the help.

Re: 1970 AM radio voltage? [Re: 69/70 Plymies] #2019454
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You've got to mean the lock cylinder. You have to disassemble the column to replace the switch. I've got JS Restoration reworking my OEM ignition switch.
Could be the lock cylinder you installed does not move the ignition switch to the correct position either in Accessories or IGN1 positions. And definitely check the radio power wire for shorting out at the ash Reciever! How well do your backup lamps work? Same circuit as the radio-

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...tml#Post1672042

Take a minute and read through my above post. All my trials and tribulations on '70 B Body wiring were addressed. Especially the Radio stuff!

Re: 1970 AM radio voltage? [Re: 69/70 Plymies] #2027038
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Well, I opened up the steering column and got re-educated on the internal design. I need to correct my previous statement. I replaced the lock cylinder 2-3 yrs. ago, not the ignition switch. I removed the actual ignition switch and found out it was very worn out. I took another out of a parts car and installed it. As soon as I get the dash components back together, I'll find out if that corrects the voltage to the radio. Also, checked the dash "ground" bolt under the dash on the pass. side and it needed serious cleaning.

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Hey what're you gonna do with the old switch? I need a junk OEM for parts.

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I'm happy to report that the radio works great, now. Either the new ignition switch or cleaning the dash "ground" fixed the voltage problem to the radio. Thanks to all for the help.







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