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Nissan/Cummins #2017968
02/23/16 11:57 AM
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I see that Nissan is using a Cummins V8 in their trucks.
http://www.nissanusa.com/trucks/titan?next=category.trucks.postcard.vlp.button

Maybe this is old news but is new to me.


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Re: Nissan/Cummins [Re: moparmarks] #2018207
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I think I remember reading it was supposed to be in Ram's....before fiat. Fred from Dirt Everyday installed one in a roadrunner, and had an interview with cummins from SEMA that they are looking into making them available for installs.

I would love to put one in a ramcharger.

Re: Nissan/Cummins [Re: moparmarks] #2018388
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I saw it on Motorweek last week or was it Diesel Power magazine????? I heard about months ago but didn't pay any attention then.

Re: Nissan/Cummins [Re: 52savoy] #2018441
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Discussed a few months ago. It isn't in the same class as the engines in Ram trucks, it's a V8 that's more light duty.

Story is, Nissan was going to sell Dodge 1500s as Titans but the deal fell through with Fiat so Nissan designed the new truck themselves. No talk of whose Diesel engines they'd use

Sometime later, Cummins pitched the 5.0 V8 to Dodge, but it didn't meet Dodge's mpg requirements so Dodge said "No". Cummins then went to see Nissan and Toyota. Both said "Yes". The Nissan got to market first. 310 hp and 555 lb-ft torque are pretty good, and the Titan is rated to tow 12,000 lb. It's not competing with the Ram 2500/3500 and the Super Dutys but aimed at folks who want a little more truck than a half-ton, but not one of those behemoths.
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Re: Nissan/Cummins [Re: dogdays] #2018490
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i was thinking the first diesel dakota size motor was when dodge went into development with massey ferguson---and that was nixed by mercedes because they already had a similar diesel....

Re: Nissan/Cummins [Re: moparmarks] #2018777
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HP TQ or MPG aside it was INSANE! for dodge not to use that engine, the name cummins alone will sell TONS of trucks, especially if toyota does end up useing them, nissan and toyota are going to enter the truck market like dodge did in 94 with the big rig body styling that EVERY truck maker is useing now days in some form or another. Don't get me wrong the VM Motori seems to be holding up so far but who in america ever heard of them? Name recognition alone is priceless, no other diesel has the reputation even close to the cummins, there is huge aftermarket support to replace both the isuzu and internationals in chubby and ferds because of it. This will go down as one of the great automotive blunders of all time like Datsun changing into nissan, this is going to be their chance to finnaly redeem that 30 years later.


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Re: Nissan/Cummins [Re: moparmarks] #2018811
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^^^^ THIS ^^^^ I agree 100%

Re: Nissan/Cummins [Re: moparmarks] #2018821
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It's a clean sheet build collaboration between Nissan and Cummins. It is all aluminum and build specifically for Nissan...Cummins is not selling it for use anywhere else as of now. That alone would make me leary. I work on lots of Dodge Cummins in the shop here, so I go to Cummins quite a bit for parts. Let me say they are less than thrilled. I'll stick with the bulletproof inline cast iron 6B series and leave the aluminum toys to Chevy, Ford, and, now Nissan.


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Re: Nissan/Cummins [Re: moparmarks] #2018896
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They aren't going to sell many of them when the truck cost 61k and doesn't include floor mats. Good motor but the wrapper it's in is hurting it

Re: Nissan/Cummins [Re: moparmarks] #2020212
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Nissan sold less than 13,000 Titans total in the US in 2015.

Ram Ecodiesel alone eclipse that in two months.

If they can win over other brand or Frontier buyers they may become a player. Even if they double their sales it will not mean much.

I do not see that as happening as a ram 2500 CTD can be similar in $ to the Titan but greatly exceeds it's capacity with a proven platform.

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I think they may attract some chevy or ford guys. Plenty of them want a cummins engine but don't want a dodge. Maybe they'll settle for an import? Still a stupid move for Chrysler. They should have at least offered the engine in their pickups along side the eco diesel.

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Any one have the sales numbers for dodge from 93 to 94? Seems I heard sales went up around 10X. Get something a truck buyer wants and people will open their wallet (or more commonly now go into debt).


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Re: Nissan/Cummins [Re: moparmarks] #2020362
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Not sure if this is accurate

Year. Diesel. V10. Total Ram

1993 49,226 a NA 75,166
1994 44,569 5,860 195,372



http://dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/Facts/diesel_sales.htm

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Re: Nissan/Cummins [Re: moparmarks] #2020432
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For me it all boils down to what do the BIG trucks run? Mostly IL6 diesels, some v8 diesels are fine, but even with the cummins name on it it could be a stinker! Every engine maker has stepped it it a time or three and first generation engines IMHO are questionable! Four or five years from now they may have the bugs worked out same with the eco diesel not sure I want the first one! Look how long it took to "fix" the 6.7 Cummins!

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