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588" motor,,, #2016809
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I am having Todd at Marsh Performance build my motor for me. after reading about the motor he built for moparts member Tig, I knew I wanted him to build mine. It specs:

588 ci
indy aluminum block
indy 572-13 heads 410-420 cfm
diamond gas port pistons 4.5" bore 13.5-1 cr
callies 4.625 crank
cam motion solid roller 282/290@.050 .800/.751
indy 3x intake
1150 dominator
isky xmax bushed lifters
jesel 1.7 rocker arms
oliver rods 7.100"


this is going in my 68 formula S fastback cuda. it is a 4 speed car, with a 3.73 moser dana 60. it also has a hemi denny front coil over front end.im hoping for about 3200 pounds. this is a street car only.

anybody want to guess the hp and tq for motor? I'm hoping for 900hp and 800 tq. Todd will dyno it, so I will know what it makes, and will post the results. I should have it very soon!


68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: Old School] #2016822
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The car it is going in....

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68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: Old School] #2016848
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What a great project. Good luck with the build. up


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Should hit the mark! Depends on a lot of things,, vacuum pump? Ring pack? Fuel?


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Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: gregsdart] #2016867
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no vaccum pump. 110 Sunoco race fuel. I don't know the ring details. I know the pistons are gas ported.....


68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: Old School] #2016873
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No expert hear but your goal sounds pretty doable to me. Going to be a ridiculous ride with a 5 spd!!! What kind of tranny are u going with?

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Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: WO23Coronet] #2016882
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Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
No expert hear but your goal sounds pretty doable to me. Going to be a ridiculous ride with a 5 spd!!! What kind of tranny are u going with ?


I wish it was a 5 speed! I built a 18 spline 4 speed for it....


68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: Old School] #2016890
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what suspension under it? Good luck with it. up

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Originally Posted By racerx
what suspension under it? Good luck with it. up


It has a Hemi Denny coil over up front. HD leaf springs out back.


68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: Old School] #2016909
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Nice car with a badazz motor! That thing is gonna be a ridiculous handfull and I commend you for that! grin up


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Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: ProSport] #2016911
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Thanks Prosport! I will post the dyno sheet when it is done. should be very soon. the builder has all the parts needed now.....


68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: Old School] #2016913
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You better get some suspension and tires. It's all I can do to get my 572 to hook on 10.5's at the track.That should be 8 second power at 3200.
Doug

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Originally Posted By dvw
You better get some suspension and tires. It's all I can do to get my 572 to hook on 10.5's at the track.That should be 8 second power at 3200.
Doug


its just a street car. it does have 275/60 15,s. I think I can put the next size up tire on it thou. it still has room....


68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Great stuff, it will be an animal.


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If nothing else you will be the burnout king in your neighborhood. drive boogie


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Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: slantzilla] #2016934
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Originally Posted By slantzilla
If nothing else you will be the burnout king in your neighborhood. drive boogie


I'm already that with the other cars... it will have a fiberglass hood, with a ss style scoop. it also has fiberglass bumpers, lightweight brackets, deck lid. it has lightweight willwood brakes front and rear. with the aluminum motor and coil over front end, I am hoping for about 3200 pounds.... maybe that will help a little with traction biggrin

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68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: Old School] #2016967
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Hey Old School, I hope you are doing great my friend!

Have you thought about getting Todd and my buddy Larry Smith to port a mopar 337 for you?

It might fit under the hood and it might be as good or better on a mild big motor as the indy

Just a thought....heres a pic of the 337 Larry did for my 517

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Re: 588" motor,,, [Re: Old School] #2017001
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Hi Bobby I am doing well buddy! I believe that is who Todd has porting my heads for me. I think I will have them port a 337. When we dyno, I will have them test the 337 and the 3x. On a motor this size it will probably be a big difference between the two.

Do you live near Todd? I was at his shop Friday.....


68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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WHY in the world would you run 13.5 compression
on a STREET car
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