Re: Wayne County speed shop
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Are they on a wayne county block , and are they t/s heads?
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Re: Wayne County speed shop
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Adger Smith told me that the B1 heads on my KOS Demon 499 were built by Wayne County. The car was first campaigned in 1996 by Hardesty. The nefarious break in at the shop, vandalism of the motors, and subsequent demise of the Dodge Boys was in 1995. Does anyone know if Wayne County was still doing heads after that break-in? I wonder if the heads I have were one of those sets that they were running or if they still were doing heads after the break-in.
Darn things have been milled to 47cc which makes it hard to convert to a street motor on a Vortech. I doubt they are anything special........just some heavily milled B-1s. And just because Hardesty ran the Demon in 96, doesn't mean he didn't have the motor well before. He had the RR before the Demon
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Re: Wayne County speed shop
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Are they on a wayne county block , and are they t/s heads? Low deck KB block. The thing was just under 500 CI with a 3.85 bryant crank. I do not know what makes a TS head but these have Ti 2.44 IN and 1.88 EX valves.
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Re: Wayne County speed shop
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Are they on a wayne county block , and are they t/s heads? Low deck KB block. The thing was just under 500 CI with a 3.85 bryant crank. I do not know what makes a TS head but these have Ti 2.44 IN and 1.88 EX valves. Sounds like they are the M/C heads with a larger valve... the M/C came with a 2.4 intake.. yeah your gonna have to buzz that engine to make use of the heads ![wave wave](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/wave.gif)
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Re: Wayne County speed shop
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Are they on a wayne county block , and are they t/s heads? Low deck KB block. The thing was just under 500 CI with a 3.85 bryant crank. I do not know what makes a TS head but these have Ti 2.44 IN and 1.88 EX valves. The engines they were running had heads and blocks that were not compatible with any mopar block. If they bolt on to a KB block, they were not in those PS cars of the period. That's not to say they didn't come from wayne cty, just that they weren't in the PS cars. The B1 ts head is a canted valve head. The heads they used on the PS cars were...."bigger"
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Re: Wayne County speed shop
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Are they on a wayne county block , and are they t/s heads? Low deck KB block. The thing was just under 500 CI with a 3.85 bryant crank. I do not know what makes a TS head but these have Ti 2.44 IN and 1.88 EX valves. The engines they were running had heads and blocks that were not compatible with any mopar block. If they bolt on to a KB block, they were not in those PS cars of the period. That's not to say they didn't come from wayne cty, just that they weren't in the PS cars. The B1 ts head is a canted valve head. The heads they used on the PS cars were...."bigger" So, if they weren't mopar blocks, what were they?
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Re: Wayne County speed shop
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Wayne County Blocks. Wider bore spacing. I never had my hands on one. I tried ordering t/s p/s heads, and was informed by the parts depot that they were special ordered, and fit wayne county blocks exclusively. I have no idea who made these blocks, or if they were just a wide bore spaced chevy block with different bolt pattern. I tried ordering them in maybe 1994 or 5. They were listed in the MP catalog, but I don't think the blocks were. I'm pretty sure the early B1TS head bolted directly to hemi blocks, used the drains and needed the hemi pushrod clearance. They were symetrical port canted valve heads.
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Re: Wayne County speed shop
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I have a set of 4.840 bore space TS heads with the "Wayne County" pattern, which is essentially a HEMI head bolt pattern, spread to fit the 4.840 bore space.
They used GM "style" blocks in those years..........I think.
Airwoofers heads are just standard B-1s. May be MCs, but I don't think so, but he says they have 2.44 intakes.....so could be
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Re: Wayne County speed shop
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this is a pic of a t/s head engine. Found this pic in a search on here.
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Re: Wayne County speed shop
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the block of the motor in the pic looks to have Chevy style motor mount bosses.
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Re: Wayne County speed shop
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In 96 Hardesty was using Transact power and Indy heads. Later he went to Adjer.
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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