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Aluminum Water Pump
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01/17/16 01:08 PM
01/17/16 01:08 PM
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Texas383
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I just got my new alum water pump from eBay for my 383 for my '69 Super Bee. Here's the issue that I didn't take into consideration before buying/receiving pump. There's no provision for the temp sending unit. I assume this is because most are for racing applications??? Mine is a street car w/very rare strip use.
Is there a way to set up temp unit? Or do I have to use my cast iron housing and use the alum pump? I really wanted the more efficient(according to advertisement) alum set up since I live in East TX where the summers are HOT.
1969 Y2 Super Bee 1959 Coronet 4 dr Sedan
~ I intend to live forever...so far so good! ~
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!
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Re: Aluminum Water Pump
[Re: Texas383]
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01/17/16 02:12 PM
01/17/16 02:12 PM
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RapidRobert
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I'd think for strip use you'd still want one. Not sure why yours dont have it but most everything comes down to profit. Eyeball yours & see if there is a suitable boss that can be drilled/tapped for it. Only caveat is you want the temp sender probe immersed in the coolant but not so far in that it obstructs flow which might happen in a narrow passage, just something to keep in mind but adding it should be easy peasy. I have a 'source blem alum pump that is obstructed & I'll just grind out that (obstructed) passage when the time comes. Never thought if it is missing the boss for the sender, I'll have to check that out
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Re: Aluminum Water Pump
[Re: Texas383]
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01/17/16 02:28 PM
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Did you get a pump or a housing, or both?
Cause you say pump, but the sending unit is in the housing and you imply you got the housing?
I seriously doubt the ebay aluminum HOUSING will be more efficient than the stock cast iron at cooling, in fact there was a batch of AL ones made a few years back with undersized passageways that caused some issues.
Just inspect the sender location on the stock setup and see if you can drill/tap/install a sender in the AL one.
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Re: Aluminum Water Pump
[Re: mikemee1331]
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01/17/16 02:49 PM
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RapidRobert
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Mike I just checked & I see (3) NPT drilled/tapped bosses ready to go & priorly I stuck my finder up there & I will be able to get to the narrowing that needs to be dealt with. What Supercuda said, the only bennie would be the weight loss AFAIK. I cant see the passages being way bigger & even if they were, the 1&1/8 block inlet holes might actually be the deciding factor on flow and the heat radiating diff between iron and alum I dont think even comes into this. for a bucks up weight conscious dragger it'd be worth it. I took up jogging (gradually) and ~80% vegetarian (gradually) & lost more weight than I did from adding the alum pump alum intake alum radiator iron manis to headers & even the "source super stealth alum heads ALL combined! the car was faster and handled better and I felt better! GRADUALLY is the key. On the pump I would add the anticav plate and on the other side of the vanes get the vane to housing clearance close (~.040" or so)
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Re: Aluminum Water Pump
[Re: Texas383]
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01/17/16 03:13 PM
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Sorry... i got housing and pump. No provision in housing for sending unit.
1969 Y2 Super Bee 1959 Coronet 4 dr Sedan
~ I intend to live forever...so far so good! ~
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!
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Re: Aluminum Water Pump
[Re: moparx]
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01/18/16 02:45 PM
01/18/16 02:45 PM
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RapidRobert
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I would but I am having camera issues. from the backside its the 2 lower (inlet) holes, the passage(s) go in a bit then make a right angle 90 deg turn inward. I'm gonna have to (from the additl examining I did just now) drill an opening in each (out)side & go in with a burr & hog em out then cap the opening with an NPT plug. pretty much just labor unless there is a restriction farther in that I cannot see right now as I ain't put much time into examining it but they are simple passages so I ain't expecting anything untoward on this. EDIT I just had a flash & went & looked in the front side (where the pump mounts) & you can easily go to the restricted area to open it up. I ain't mocked it up yet to check for fitment on the bolt holes etc but if the price is right and there's the need to save some lbs its OK & the alum has a good finish on it, definitely diff than the cast pump
Last edited by RapidRobert; 01/18/16 02:54 PM.
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Re: Aluminum Water Pump
[Re: Texas383]
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01/19/16 03:51 PM
01/19/16 03:51 PM
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therocks
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Its not hard to drill and tap.I did the old MP piece for my 440.I installed the oe sender thats small and then drilled and tapped the hole for a mechanical gauge.Been on since the 90s and no problems.Rocky
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