Re: Main Bearing clearance
[Re: scatpacktom]
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12/31/15 06:55 PM
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I run .003/.003 on the mains and rods for a race set up.. I have the same on my 416 street/strip engine but I should have gone a bit less with all the oil losses I have built in(EDM roller lifters, PR oiling, plus I have bushed lifter bores but went with a .062 hole in them.. I was suggested a .040 hole and I believe I should have to.. reduced the oil loss from all the built in leaks).. I know a few guys that have run the mains at .0035 (all these numbers are for steel rods)
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Re: Main Bearing clearance
[Re: scatpacktom]
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12/31/15 09:13 PM
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Way to loose(.0035+) is a bunch better than a tiny bit to tight I've built and ran NHRA stocker motor with .0035+ on a lot of different motors, so have friend of mine that ran those cars also. What type, weight and synthetic or non synthetic oil are you going to use in this motor?
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Main Bearing clearance
[Re: scatpacktom]
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12/31/15 09:34 PM
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if you have loose clearances, you know it. If your too tight everyone will know it.
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Re: Main Bearing clearance
[Re: dthemi]
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01/01/16 02:38 PM
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I feel the main bearing design also makes a difference. The quality of crank also. As well as your choice of weight in oil.
I run 30wt max oil. An HD bearing and .0025" on a 2.500" main. 360mopar and 351ford mains I run .003".
Engines running full groove bearings with 30wt I'm not scared of .0025".
Big block mopars move around more and have heavy assemblies. Does that reason larger clearance?
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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Re: Main Bearing clearance
[Re: scatpacktom]
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01/01/16 06:50 PM
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Well with the king bearings between .0038 and .0041. Clevites were a smidge tighter but I misplaced my notes so I'll have to put em back in and check em again.
Anybody know if there is a bearing that runs a little tighter? You can buy Kings in .001" over/under.
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Re: Main Bearing clearance
[Re: scatpacktom]
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01/02/16 03:23 AM
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This isn't technology. The suggested plain bearing clearance for a spinning journal was .001" per 1.000" of journal diameter 100 years ago.
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Re: Main Bearing clearance
[Re: dthemi]
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01/02/16 11:26 AM
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Yep, buy a set of .001's, not X they're for a thou more clearance. Also, you can use a standard upper, or lower, and the other half the .001 to get where you want to be. That's what I did, mine was a little tight so I ordered a set of .001" overs and used the cap half.
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Re: Main Bearing clearance
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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01/03/16 09:51 PM
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I have run .004 or more on a lot of stuff and never had a problem Problem with big clearance and a LA Mopar is delivering enough oil to the mains. If you block off the DS lifter feed you increase some. Drill all the main feeds helps. Restrict the heads also helps. Deep pan to accommodate all the drainback. Easiest thing is don't over clearance the mains. .025" is minimum on a 340 main imo. But, .003" will keep oil blowout to a minimum and feed the larger rod journals that are likely overclearanced to. I have had many shops laugh when they saw my P bearings in a high HP price. But, after seeing the condition of my bearings was told don't change a thing. My theory... They oil the rod 360°. This can also cause oil loss. But, I never had hurt a main. Hurt rods but not mains in early builds. I dealt 360° rod oiling cooled the bearing. If the bearing runs cooler the clearance can be tighter. Just what has worked for me.
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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