Milodon External pick-up oiling systems which one do you use
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single line, dual line, swinging pick-up or static, which one do you use on your BB stroker? reason I ask is there are so many variations it hard to determine what is the right set-up or what is overkill for a 512 lo deck stroker that I don't plan on revving above 7000/7200, rpm also plan on using the Milodon Super Stock pan #31470
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Re: Milodon External pick-up oiling systems which one do you use
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When I researched it, I was told that a single line was good to 6500 RPM, after that a dual line setup was recommended. my thinking is that a single external line is going to be better than any internal set-up.jmo
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Re: Milodon External pick-up oiling systems which one do you use
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I run a dual line swinging pickup setup and a trap door oil pan. I've turned my old 440 to 7,000 rpm, never had an issue. I don't care if it's overkill, I know it works.
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Re: Milodon External pick-up oiling systems which one do you use
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I run a dual line swinging pickup setup and a trap door oil pan. I've turned my old 440 to 7,000 rpm, never had an issue. I don't care if it's overkill, I know it works. Same here ![thumbs thumbs](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs.gif) been on the car sense 06 no problem so far.
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Re: Milodon External pick-up oiling systems which one do you use
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I ran the mopar stock 3/8 pickup 1970/71 440 6 pak pickup for the OEM 1970/71 Street Hemi 440 6 pak 6 quart oil pan in my 518 C.I. low deck stroker motor. I had to keep the oil level at or above the add mark to race it in a 1/4 mile, if I let it get down a quart the oil pressure would drop some after I let off in the 1/4 mile ![shock shock](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shock.gif) If was less than a 1/2 quart down it was fine ![thumbs thumbs](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs.gif) I shifted that motor at or above 7000 RPM in 1st and 2nd gear and crossed the finish line at or above 6500 RPM the 10.5x31x15W M/T slicks, it would cross the finish line at or above 7000 RPM with the 315x60x4 ET Street Radials ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif) I ran real loose oil clearances(.0035+ on the rods and .004+ on the mains, I used the narrow full groove Federal Mogul truck main bearings(4094M) also ![thumbs thumbs](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs.gif) I oiled the rockers full time by grooving the #4 cam journal to make sure the valve springs got plenty of oil to keep them cool due to the solid roller cam spring pressures, above 680 lbs opened and 300+ on the seats ![thumbs thumbs](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs.gif) That motor saw a lot of slow street driving and a lot of laps at the local tracks, 1/8 mile and 1/4 miles. My main message is the that oiling system served me fine ![thumbs thumbs](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs.gif) I've used Milidon external oiling system before and since then also but there not needed for the application your building in my opinion ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif)
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Re: Milodon External pick-up oiling systems which one do you use
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what size bearing clearances are you planing on running? I run a duel line on my 512, but I have some loose bearing clearances.
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Re: Milodon External pick-up oiling systems which one do you use
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We run dual line with remote oil filters on our cars. Either Indy or Milodon pump covers. You might consider a Charlie oil pan because they are lower profile. The Milodon 31470 oil pan hangs low and with some of the pit areas around here you have to be careful. I would also go with a 9 or 10 quart pan also. I like the swinging pickup. If you can find an accumulator (3 quart) might consider one of them also.
Jack
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Re: Milodon External pick-up oiling systems which one do you use
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The late Jeff Kobylski, founder of Modern Cylinder Head, once said he used a single line system up to 9500 rpm. He was talking hemi, though.
I have a -16AN to a single line static. I don't like it. My oil pressure goes to zero after hitting the brakes after the finish line.
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Re: Milodon External pick-up oiling systems which one do you use
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The late Jeff Kobylski, founder of Modern Cylinder Head, once said he used a single line system up to 9500 rpm. He was talking hemi, though.
I have a -16AN to a single line static. I don't like it. My oil pressure goes to zero after hitting the brakes after the finish line. you need either a deeper pan or an Accumulator.
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Re: Milodon External pick-up oiling systems which one do you use
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I have the Milodon pan as per the MOPAR bible.Twin line swinging pick up with 2 remote filters and an accumulator.
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Re: Milodon External pick-up oiling systems which one do you use
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Milodon single external w/ static pickup on my hemi. Cross the stripe at 7400 rpm making over 1,000 hp. Milodon 21815 oil pump w/ a factory cast iron oil pump cover that I ported. 440 source fab'd aluminum oil pan. I put a hole in the side of the pan and used Milodon's static pickup.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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