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Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: HotRodDave] #196784
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There is no performer air-gap for a small mopar.




There is if you are running Magnum heads.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D7577&autoview=sku


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Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: DUFFMAN] #196785
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There is no performer air-gap for a small mopar.




There is if you are running Magnum heads.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D7577&autoview=sku




That is a "performer RPM" not a "performer". That has the same ports as the LA "performer RPM" not the regular LA "performer".


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Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: HotRodDave] #196786
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Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: DUFFMAN] #196787
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ok

so im confused.the holley aluminum street dominator intake is no good?

oh and by the way

i found a good deal

a cam and lifters

idk what the cam is but the numbers are

.398 260 degree .420270

is that any good?

also will long tube headers out of a 74 valiant four door with a 318 fit my 318 in my 72 satellite with power steering?

the guy wants 100 bucks for the two things.both new!

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: erick72] #196788
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oh yeah will the headers fit on the magnum heads?they are for stock 318 heads.

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: erick72] #196789
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(1) the BB one is very good, the SB one I am going to find out(as I have one in hand) but it should be good (2) I dont know (3) I dont know (4) no


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Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: RapidRobert] #196790
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(1) the BB one is very good, the SB one I am going to find out(as I have one in hand) but it should be good (2) I dont know (3) I dont know (4) no




haha
im confused?

are you reffering to me?lol

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: erick72] #196791
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(1) the BB one is very good, the SB one I am going to find out(as I have one in hand) but it should be good (2) I dont know (3) I dont know (4) no


haha im confused? are you reffering to me?lol


(1) no need to be confused (2) yes I will from here on out quote what I am commenting on to(try) & eliminate any confusion


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Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: DUFFMAN] #196792
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i bought mine from summit!

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: denfireguy] #196793
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I found several places cheaper than them including Hughes!!!
CCH wants $350 too high; I found some for $229 each; EQ's national sales Manager has them listed on Ebay for that! These are "bare" prices/I have plenty of valves from bum cracked heads and access to valve grinding equip to "clean them up" before installing them.



I believe the CCH heads are not bare but have the 2.02 intakes, springs and keepers.
I have not checked out Carolina but will today.
Craig




I was comparing CCH's price, for BARE 1.94 heads vs. Hughes' BARE 1.94 heads vs the place I got em from which were also BARE 1.94 heads;
NOT BARE heads from one vendor, vs assembled/prepped heads from another; that's like apples to oranges; with all these cracked heads I have plenty of Magnum head gear to pick from and access to at least a few valve grinding machines!!!! and with all the money I've wasted, buying OEM used Mag heads and machine shop labor for degreasing/hot tanking and crack checking I need to save money SOMEWHERE!!!!

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: erick72] #196794
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ok

so im confused.the holley aluminum street dominator intake is no good?

oh and by the way

i found a good deal

a cam and lifters

idk what the cam is but the numbers are

.398 260 degree .420270

is that any good?

also will long tube headers out of a 74 valiant four door with a 318 fit my 318 in my 72 satellite with power steering?

the guy wants 100 bucks for the two things.both new!




does anyone know?

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: erick72] #196795
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ok

so im confused.the holley aluminum street dominator intake is no good?

oh and by the way

i found a good deal

a cam and lifters

idk what the cam is but the numbers are

.398 260 degree .420270

is that any good?

also will long tube headers out of a 74 valiant four door with a 318 fit my 318 in my 72 satellite with power steering?

the guy wants 100 bucks for the two things.both new!




does anyone know?





Thats a really good deal it sounds like. But Id reccomend the 430 lift mopar performance 340 grind cam. They work well in a 318

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: DusterKrazy] #196796
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ok

so im confused.the holley aluminum street dominator intake is no good?

oh and by the way

i found a good deal

a cam and lifters

idk what the cam is but the numbers are

.398 260 degree .420270

is that any good?

also will long tube headers out of a 74 valiant four door with a 318 fit my 318 in my 72 satellite with power steering?

the guy wants 100 bucks for the two things.both new!




does anyone know?





Thats a really good deal it sounds like. But Id reccomend the 430 lift mopar performance 340 grind cam. They work well in a 318




the guy said it says "high performance cam for 273-360 mopar.it has new lifters too!what does it sound like?a stock 340 cam or a mild 318 cam?

but someone told me this

do i need a roller cam to do the magnum head swap?????

i thought i was fine with a the hydraulic kind listed above.

also will these headers bolt onto the magnum heads?or do i need special ones?

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: erick72] #196797
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That cam will work--you don't need a roller.
The headers will bolt to the Magnum heads (ports are a little different, but they should seal), but I don't think A body headers will work in a B body.

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That cam will work--you don't need a roller.
The headers will bolt to the Magnum heads (ports are a little different, but they should seal), but I don't think A body headers will work in a B body.




well i was thinking they just might because the little a body has a 318,power steering and a full size starter adn my engine bay is bigger anyways.what would get in the way?


are the lifters he has ok too?i just need the oil through pushrods right?

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: erick72] #196799
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You could NOT use a factory style roller setup if that is your original block; they did not set the blocks up for a roller cam before 1985-ish. You'd have to go with some sort of aftermarket design (read; way more expensive) to go roller on that engine. But as Mopars had the largest diameter lifters you can actually run a bigger cam than a Generic Motors engine could IF the rest of your build can support one. but IF you go Magnum heads with stock Magnum rockers, etc, your 1.6 rocker ratio will make any cam you use in that engine seem a little "bigger" as all 91-older SB Mopars only had a 1.5:1 rocker ratio. (you COULD go aftermarket rockers and find 1.5s for the Magnum setup but that would be a step backwards)

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: volaredon] #196800
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You could NOT use a factory style roller setup if that is your original block; they did not set the blocks up for a roller cam before 1985-ish. You'd have to go with some sort of aftermarket design (read; way more expensive) to go roller on that engine. But as Mopars had the largest diameter lifters you can actually run a bigger cam than a Generic Motors engine could IF the rest of your build can support one. but IF you go Magnum heads with stock Magnum rockers, etc, your 1.6 rocker ratio will make any cam you use in that engine seem a little "bigger" as all 91-older SB Mopars only had a 1.5:1 rocker ratio. (you COULD go aftermarket rockers and find 1.5s for the Magnum setup but that would be a step backwards)




its ok oller is expensive.i was just making sure i didnt need them!

so im taking it the headers wont fit?

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: erick72] #196801
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How did you get that out of it (standard LA headers not fitting) according to what I see in this very thread they should be fine; as far as "a" body headers in your "b" body--- most catalogs list all Mopar bodies together just whether you have a big or small block (318 is SB if you were wondering) is what matters for headers on your combo. Should fit fine!

Re: 318 build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: volaredon] #196802
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How did you get that out of it (standard LA headers not fitting) according to what I see in this very thread they should be fine; as far as "a" body headers in your "b" body--- most catalogs list all Mopar bodies together just whether you have a big or small block (318 is SB if you were wondering) is what matters for headers on your combo. Should fit fine!




good im gonna go get them and see!

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