Re: `56 Dodge modern front end swap advice
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01/25/16 02:56 PM
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John_Kunkel
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Don't know if these will be any help but they're pics of the frame splice on both sides of my '56.
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Re: `56 Dodge modern front end swap advice
[Re: RodStRace]
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01/31/16 02:14 PM
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67R/T4speeder
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That last shot is golden for those that have an old flathead car and want to know what is the issue with the steering when swapping in a V8. Notice how much of the box and column is in the same area of the exhaust on a V8. That's why people keep mentioning A body exhaust manifolds and moving the engine over a bit to the right. Sticks way out there for sure Hopefully I can find someone needing these `56 parts I am not going to use.
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Re: `56 Dodge modern front end swap advice
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02/07/16 11:17 AM
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There are all sorts of mustang II-based front ends out there, such as Heidt's or Fatman, and they have been working for years. I believe with most of those setups you keep your existing framerails. The aftermarket is full of upgrade parts for this basic setup. The same basic setup was used on the Granada so don't let someone tell you it isn't strong enough.
The Dakota swap is very popular here and it looks like that's because it is a good one. People either swap the whole frame or else cut and weld the new front end to the old back half of the frame.
I wonder when Dakotas are going to become scarce, they aren't really valued for much else and they are scarce on the roads right now. Probably quite a few sitting besides barns, though.
R. I know you aren't going the Mustang II route, but FYI, the Granada doesn't use the Mustang II design front suspension, but rather is a modified version of the high mount coil design originally developed for the 1960 Falcon and later used in the original 1965-1973 Mustang and 1962-1971 Fairlanes and Torinos. The Mustang II suspension was used in the subcompact Pinto and 1974-78 Mustang and Mercury equivalents
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Re: `56 Dodge modern front end swap advice
[Re: 3csalvage]
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02/16/16 11:53 AM
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I see you are going with the dakote swap, for others the 2003-2008 IIRC crown vic set up is a very good one as well!!! It the use of Mopar parts the best I can that is stuck in my head
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Re: `56 Dodge modern front end swap advice
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02/16/16 05:42 PM
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The Crown Vic subframe has a wider track then a Dakota, which becomes an issue on many older cars & trucks. Around here its easier and cheaper to buy a running Dakota then it is to buy just a frame, but yes, you will want to look at the Dakota frame for rust before you part with your money. Areas of concern are mostly between the wheels on the lower part, especially near the trans crossmember and the joint area near the channel & the box joint. Don't completely condemn the frame if there is rust in those areas, if the rest of the frame is pretty clean. The bottom sections can be replaced with 1/8" flat stock. Your probably welding on the frame anyway. Like most modern stuff, they created a location where water can get in, but can't get out, so rust begins and self feeds. Gene
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