Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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Cold air? Yes Cat back? Yes NOS CARB-legal nitrous system? YES, YES, YES
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Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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And will cat-back or "cold air" make a difference? Absolutely not, especially the "cold air".
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Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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And will cat-back or "cold air" make a difference? Absolutely not, especially the "cold air". That's what I told him. That he probably would not notice the difference.
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Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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It will sound faster, thats about it. The factory don't leave as much HP on the table for easy pickins any more. Combine those with a tuner and you might get 10 HP and you would have to squint real hard to see a change on a time slip.
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Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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I have a 2012 Rallye Redline. I put the Mopar cold air intake on it. I doubt there is a measurable difference in performance but she really moans when you get on it...lol..
The mufflers on mine look like old school glasspacks. I don't know if they are baffled or not but they would have to be straight through. And the pipe is fairly large. I'd guess the restriction in the exhaust would be the resonators but removing them will cause a drone inside the car. I may replace mine with some shorty Cherry Bombs sometime just to see what it sounds like.
Tidlewave and another company are now making superchargers for the 3.6. Dallas
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Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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I did a bunch of research on what to do if anything on my car and decided most of the work is a waste of time.
The supercharger is steep bucks, for the money I'd invest in a hemi car instead.
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Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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And will cat-back or "cold air" make a difference? Absolutely not, especially the "cold air". That's what I told him. That he probably would not notice the difference. Well, you tried and that's the best you can do. If he/she wants to dump $1500 for nothing, oh well. Really, all that's left on a modern vehicle to make a noticable difference is to cut the catalytic converter out. It worked for me, but wow, is it tough to outsmart the downstream O2. Otherwise, electric fans, efficient transmissions, great cylinder heads, precise timing, injection, cold air from inside the fender, it's all been done for you. Read that in Hot Rod in the mid 90's and they were sure right.
Mo' Farts
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Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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I was watching one of those car hot rod shows on Spike where they took the factory air intake out and replaced it with an Livernois "cold air" intake.
The factory system they removed had ductwork to get air from in front of the radiator, the Livernois pulled it out of the engine compartment.
Cold air my butt. But that filter looked blingy and I am sure it was noiser too.
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Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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Ah yes, the "hot air kit" so many car owners who failed Grade 5 science class fell for. Indeed, hot air really does rise, and Mopar is an offender too:
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Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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And will cat-back or "cold air" make a difference? Absolutely not, especially the "cold air". That's what I told him. That he probably would not notice the difference. Well, you tried and that's the best you can do. If he/she wants to dump $1500 for nothing, oh well. Really, all that's left on a modern vehicle to make a noticable difference is to cut the catalytic converter out. It worked for me, but wow, is it tough to outsmart the downstream O2. Otherwise, electric fans, efficient transmissions, great cylinder heads, precise timing, injection, cold air from inside the fender, it's all been done for you. Read that in Hot Rod in the mid 90's and they were sure right. Oh he's still waiting to hear back from me. I'm sure he'll leave it alone.
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Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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Ah yes, the "hot air kit" so many car owners who failed Grade 5 science class fell for. Indeed, hot air really does rise, and Mopar is an offender too:
I can't believe people are still buying that garbage. I guess the marketing folk got that gimmick right.
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Re: California Legal Mods for a 2014 Pentastar V6
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It's been about 3 years since I installed the one on my 3.6. IIRC it actually pulls air from the bottom of the housing which I think is ducted into the radiator support so it actually pulls air from outside the engine compartment. The rubber seal around the top is to seal it to the hood to keep the hot air out.
That said I bought it more for the look and sound rather than expecting a big h/p increase. The factory isn't leaving any easy h/p laying around much these days. Dallas
2012 Rallye Redline Challenger, 1st new car! 2010 Ram 1500 4wd HEMI-hauler 2014 Dodge Dart-gas saver 4 projects and a bunch of parts cars, losing interest since buying the Challenger lol 1969 Dodge Coronet 500-'gonna fix 'er up someday!'
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