Have been thinking about using a hydraulic clutch lever from motorcycle and using it to operate a hydraulic throw-out bearing on a manual trans. Reason? eft leg has issues. Sawthere is a electronic system called "duck clutch", but does not seem to be what you want in a Mopar.
Any input?
Would it be even possible to generate enough force/fluid amount with your hand to move the clutch?
Will be upgraded clutch due to engine/Hp level.
1969 Roadrunner Sox&Martin tribute with 572Hemi and F&B performance Six-Pack XFI2.0 injection.
Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: dutchrunner]
#1940371 10/28/1502:46 PM10/28/1502:46 PM
I see no reason why you couldn't do it , All you need to do is mount the slave and a handle to pull it down in a safe place , the issue will be shifting and having to let go of the wheel .
I don't see a clutch being mounted to the steering wheel .
Have you thought about modifying the clutch peddle to make it easier to push in ? , change to a hyd. clutch setup anyway as it may be easier on your leg ?
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Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: dutchrunner]
#1940380 10/28/1502:54 PM10/28/1502:54 PM
You could but I don't think it would work very well. A motorcycle handle probably will not have enough leverage. Using a larger lever would work but not very well in a high performance application. You need to have one hand on the wheel.
An electro-hydraulic solution could work. Use an electric motor to move the clutch hydraulic master. You could use a variable trigger to take up the clutch and have it be part of the shifter.
Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: Morty426]
#1940395 10/28/1503:02 PM10/28/1503:02 PM
An electro-hydraulic solution could work. Use an electric motor to move the clutch hydraulic master. You could use a variable trigger to take up the clutch and have it be part of the shifter.
Switch on the shifter , maybe a T handle with a line lock button ?
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Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: dutchrunner]
#1940419 10/28/1503:21 PM10/28/1503:21 PM
My buddy had a VW Beetle that had an electric clutch back in my sailor days, other than that I know nothing about it. Problem with that kind of setup, I would think, is that in a light VW it's not be an issue, but trying to slip the clutch or ease it out in a heavier car might, just guessing though. Maybe some one with knowledge of it will speak up.
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Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: Supercuda]
#1940657 10/28/1508:57 PM10/28/1508:57 PM
Many years ago working at an auto repair shop I had to drive a '63 Vette setup for a paraplegic. 4 speed car. He had hand levers attached to the pedals that allowed slipping the clutch. Worked the brakes and gas pedal too. My 6'3" frame had a little trouble getting it into the shop but I managed. Levers were attached directly to the pedals and had round pads for the hands. This guy could speed shift like crazy with this setup. Definitely impressed me!
Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: dutchrunner]
#1940944 10/29/1511:49 AM10/29/1511:49 AM
How about a CF clutch which is Diaphram and hyd throw out.The CF will drop the pressure as will the hydraulic.They work great as I have one in my 65 and lots of HP.Been in for years and still bites and shifts great.At my age I dont want the old 3500 pound 3 finger I had.Rocky
Chrysler Firepower
Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: dutchrunner]
#1940989 10/29/1501:04 PM10/29/1501:04 PM
Thanks for all the input until now. It's not easy I think. Biggest isseu will be fluid amount from lever and needed amount of bearing. Just will keep thinking of solution. Will need a heavy clutch. Taking 1 hand of the steering wheel for shifting is not a problem as you have to shift anyway.
1969 Roadrunner Sox&Martin tribute with 572Hemi and F&B performance Six-Pack XFI2.0 injection.
Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: dutchrunner]
#1941013 10/29/1502:04 PM10/29/1502:04 PM
Thinking out loud, it would take a lot of talent to drive with a hand operated clutch as you would be engaging the clutch, shifting and then disengaging the clutch which would require both hands to be off the wheel. Electronically shifting would certainly be more complex to build, but a steering wheel mounted lever set up maybe like a paddle shifter would allow you to keep one hand on the wheel.
Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: dutchrunner]
#1941041 10/29/1502:45 PM10/29/1502:45 PM
Even with a diaphragm type clutch and a hydraulic throw out bearing, you'll still never generate enough force with a motorcycle handle to actuate a master cylinder with enough volume and force.
An electric system with some sort of a variable trigger to allow for clutch slipping would be necessary.
Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
#1941143 10/29/1506:01 PM10/29/1506:01 PM
How often do you need to shift? Race or daily driver
You could fabricate a pneumatic cylinder (aka Bimba Valve) to operate the clutch. A push button on the shifter or wheel could actuate the air cylinder. You'll need to figure out the air source whether a large storage tank and/or some type of small compressor depending on shift needs. There is not much sliding into the clutch here unless the application button or lever had some variability.
Then there is always the reverse manual valve body on an automatic...No clutch at all...
1972 Dodge Challenger
Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: dutchrunner]
#1941165 10/29/1506:36 PM10/29/1506:36 PM
Was more thinking like using a pistolgrip shifter and putting the handle/lever vertical in front of shifterhandle. Like a automatic shifter has with the Hurst Pistol Grip Quarter Stick Shifter. Easy to operate with 1 hand. No need to take 2e hand from wheel.
1969 Roadrunner Sox&Martin tribute with 572Hemi and F&B performance Six-Pack XFI2.0 injection.
Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: dutchrunner]
#1941710 10/30/1505:25 PM10/30/1505:25 PM
Was more thinking like using a pistolgrip shifter and putting the handle/lever vertical in front of shifterhandle. Like a automatic shifter has with the Hurst Pistol Grip Quarter Stick Shifter. Easy to operate with 1 hand. No need to take 2e hand from wheel.
That'd work if you could get the leverage and throw needed to work the clutch without needing a hand so overdeveloped that people don't doubt you have no girlfriend.
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Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: dutchrunner]
#1941726 10/30/1505:54 PM10/30/1505:54 PM
Emailed with some companies that have hydraulic clutch systems. But need to know volume and psi of cylinder that is used to actuate the clutch. Then I have some idea of force and fluid amount needed.
1969 Roadrunner Sox&Martin tribute with 572Hemi and F&B performance Six-Pack XFI2.0 injection.
Re: Hand operated clutch . Is it possible
[Re: dutchrunner]
#1941736 10/30/1506:08 PM10/30/1506:08 PM