Vacuum Advance - Ported or Manifoeld Vacuum?
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Having a brain cramp! Holley 750 DP - is the distributor vacuum advance off the carb base manifold vacuum or is it off the ported port?
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Re: Vacuum Advance - Ported or Manifoeld Vacuum?
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base is manifold. side nipple on metering block is ported (what works best for our Mopars)
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Re: Vacuum Advance - Ported or Manifoeld Vacuum?
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There's two schools of thought on this. If you want better off-idle-and-up drivability, performance and mileage use manifold vacuum. If you want no vacuum advance most of the time except at high speed on the freeway or at medium-to-high rpm with less NO2 emissions use ported.
Either way, you need to have your distributor set up right.
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Re: Vacuum Advance - Ported or Manifoeld Vacuum?
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I used to think it made more sense to use manifold vacuum because it will give you a better idle. However, I've changed my thinking. I like to use ported now. Get the base timing you want in your timing curve. Otherwise when you stomp on the throttle from idle you're retarding your timing and losing response.
However, if you don't know how or don't want to recurve the dizzy, manifold vacuum will help give you a better idle easily.
You can really set it up however you want though if your customizing it. Older cars used manifold vacuum, most of our cars used ported (anything mid 60s or later). As Andy said above its the same, the ported vacuum is just not active at idle.
On a car with a big cam if the vacuum fluctuates a little at idle running manifold vacuum could cause fluctuating idle timing and make the idle RPM jump around alot. Of course, the idle vacuum fluctuation is exacerbated when it starts pulling and adding timing too.
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Re: Vacuum Advance - Ported or Manifoeld Vacuum?
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an option would be to get the FBO plate ($25 to your door) or make your own & dial it in in both ways & see which one works the best for you. (4) subsystems: initial/total/spring rate/vac can
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Re: Vacuum Advance - Ported or Manifoeld Vacuum?
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If you have a distributor setup for ported, then use ported. If you have a distributor setup for manifold, then use manifold vacuum. Dont try and run them opposite and you will be fine.
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Re: Vacuum Advance - Ported or Manifoeld Vacuum?
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If you have a distributor setup for ported, then use ported. If you have a distributor setup for manifold, then use manifold vacuum. Dont try and run them opposite and you will be fine. ^^x2. My choice has always been and will always be ported. When ported can't work any more then plug it (rare occasions, and never a street car). That being said it's simply not worth arguing about.
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Re: Vacuum Advance - Ported or Manifoeld Vacuum?
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I cant say I have ever ran manifold mainly cuz I am used to em being plumbed that way OE (ported) & I've only had one carb I've dealt with that had no ported nipple so I just used manifold automatically (had no choice there) & didn't really dial it in for spot on) but sometime when I get caught up & I'm gonna try it (& dial it in for manifold) just to see/be informed & I may like/prefer it
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