Need help wth my 340 .... Keeps stalling out when I put it d
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I have a 340 four barrel Holly double pump , street cam, headers. The cam is nice and prominent at idle but when I put it in D or R it dies immediately. No loose hoses or vacuum ports. Tightened the intake and carb. After it stalls it will not start without priming the carb. Checked and it looks like it's getting gas. Plugs had carbon... Ideas?
Last edited by 74fish; 04/16/15 08:06 PM.
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Re: Need help wth my 340 .... Keeps stalling out when I put it d
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What is your initial timing? Does it change from N to in D?
1970 YO7 A66 [Canadian Export] F8 Challenger 340 (Currently in shop for stroker assy.)
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Re: Need help wth my 340 .... Keeps stalling out when I put it d
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what is your initial? ported or manifold? pull the idle mixture screws & blast the holes with a 3 second blast of starting fluid then replace the screws (count # of turns to lightly seated to easily return em to their original position). you might install a gutted PV so it's idling on the power circuit which MIGHT point to a vac leak. post how it goes.
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Re: Need help wth my 340 .... Keeps stalling out when I put it d
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""I don't remember if I even set those when I installed the carb several years ago.""
For a tuning reference, tighten each of the metering screws clockwise until they "lightly" bottom out. Count how many turns it took for each one to seat and let us know what this was. Then take a permanent marker (any color will due) and mark each metering screw at the 12:00 position. Then turn each metering screw outward 2 turns (your mark will be at 12:00 again) if this is a carb that has 2 metering screws. If it has 4 metering screws, turn them out about 3/4 turns each.
This will be a good starting point and your previous metering screw position will be a good reference to help figure this out.
1970 YO7 A66 [Canadian Export] F8 Challenger 340 (Currently in shop for stroker assy.)
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Re: Need help wth my 340 .... Keeps stalling out when I put it d
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Looking at the picture, you've got the distributor vacuum advance line hooked up to the wrong fitting. You've got it hooked to a ported connection. You need to move the hose to the fitting under the float bowl. That's manifold vacuum and where the hose should be connected.
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Re: Need help wth my 340 .... Keeps stalling out when I put it d
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I would suggest that since it has been sitting for so long, pull each needle/seat and clean them and then reset your float levels. You might have some crud in them causing flooding. You may need to buy a dial-back timing light to be able to set a higher initial timing setting.
1970 YO7 A66 [Canadian Export] F8 Challenger 340 (Currently in shop for stroker assy.)
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Re: Need help wth my 340 .... Keeps stalling out when I put it d
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Looking at the picture, you've got the distributor vacuum advance line hooked up to the wrong fitting. You've got it hooked to a ported connection. You need to move the hose to the fitting under the float bowl. That's manifold vacuum and where the hose should be connected. suppose to be hooked to the ported vacuum on the metering block.
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Re: Need help wth my 340 .... Keeps stalling out when I put it d
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The accel pump does not effect the idle mixture until you step on the gas....so it shouldn't fix your problem....if the accel pump was gummed up so is the idle circuit and the rest of the carb, it needs rebuilding. I think your idle mixture is lean...and that's why its stalling.
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Re: Need help wth my 340 .... Keeps stalling out when I put it d
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Looking at the picture, you've got the distributor vacuum advance line hooked up to the wrong fitting. You've got it hooked to a ported connection. You need to move the hose to the fitting under the float bowl. That's manifold vacuum and where the hose should be connected. suppose to be hooked to the ported vacuum on the metering block. Correct. Mopar dist. are on ported vacuum. Chevys are on manifold vacuum. While idling in park turn the idle mixture screws in. If there is no change in the idle then the carb is not on the idle circuit. Need to back off the idle speed screw and probably advance the timing.
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Re: Need help wth my 340 .... Keeps stalling out when I put it d
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Looking at the picture, you've got the distributor vacuum advance line hooked up to the wrong fitting. You've got it hooked to a ported connection. You need to move the hose to the fitting under the float bowl. That's manifold vacuum and where the hose should be connected. suppose to be hooked to the ported vacuum on the metering block. Correct. Mopar dist. are on ported vacuum. Chevys are on manifold vacuum. While idling in park turn the idle mixture screws in. If there is no change in the idle then the carb is not on the idle circuit. Need to back off the idle speed screw and probably advance the timing. This is correct. When the timing sees manifold vacuum you will never get it set properly. Change the timing. Engine speed goes up. Vacuum goes up. Timing advances. Engine speed goes up. Timing advances (too far this time). Engine speed goes down. Vacuum drops. Timing backs down. Engine speed goes up. Vacuum goes up. Timing advances. See where this is leading? Go to ported advance: Change the timing. Engine speed goes up. Vacuum goes up. Distributor doesn't care because it can't see vacuum until after you're on the throttle.
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Re: Need help wth my 340 .... Keeps stalling out when I put it d
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The accel pump does not effect the idle mixture until you step on the gas....so it shouldn't fix your problem....if the accel pump was gummed up so is the idle circuit and the rest of the carb, it needs rebuilding. I think your idle mixture is lean...and that's why its stalling. This ... especially if it's ethanol blended fuel. Then his description of the cam is so vague , what does it have for a converter ? What distributor is it and has it been modified if it is a stock MP distributor to limit mechanical advance with the higher than factory initial ?
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