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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: Devilbrad]
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12/01/05 04:19 AM
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I have yet to see an 8 second street car like in hot rod this month with 4 doors.
This was in Hot Rod magazine, 8.752 @ 159.27. Conventional? No. 8 second 4 door in Hot Rod? Yes.
Good eye I stand corrected. There is also a nova wagon running 8s.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: dezduster]
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12/01/05 12:05 PM
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I AM FLYING THE BS FLAG . How much time and money was invested is disclosed where.
You can email Dale Seeley (www.lake-effect-racing.com) and tell him that his Stage 3 SRT-4 cost more to build than a Twin Turbo Prosche, a Viper, a Tube Chassis Ram, or the two modified Corvettes.
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My point was simply if a large 4 door car like the CHARGER was cut down to a 2 door(Challenger) using all same components/ platform and DESIGNED AS A 2 DOOR the 2 door WILL perform BETTER.
Your point was that 4 door cars can't be performance cars because they have 4 doors. I know this to be true because you are simultaneously arguing that an Evo and SRT-4 can't place in the top 10 unless they cost as much as a Porsche. Maybe you should argue that large cars such as the Challenger are a waste, because they are too big and heavy.
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Some of youre statement is true.
All of the statement was true.
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However you are still missing my point. If you use the same platform ,power train,HORSE POWER,suspension,and last but not least TIRES,The lighter vehichle built to the same specific structural standards WILL handle better.
Then you have a car that is either more expensive, or less profitable, because you built a new chassis to support a niche market. If you stay with an existing car, either you or the manufacturer can spend more money on the engine and suspension, and get the most performance for your dollar.
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Road course or drag race.That is the best way to solve this enigma.
Sure. We can race a similarly priced Challenger and Evo.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: xs29j8]
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12/01/05 01:29 PM
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Oh yes. It will be mine in B5/white SRT8 trim...
Last edited by moparts; 12/02/05 10:53 AM.
I’m listening.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: Burt]
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12/01/05 02:13 PM
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15 posts of the cover and not one mention of Tera Patrick? You guys are Pathetic 
I didn't want to bring it up in fear that it would turn the thread mildly south and it'd get shutdown. But I did catch it 
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: InViolent]
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12/01/05 05:25 PM
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Hey, for what it's worth, Eddie Alterman from MPH Magazine has requested that the cover image shown on this post be taken down. I guess he's concerned with DCX's possible reaction?
I had emailed him a few questions about the article, and he asked if there was anything I could do to help him avoid getting into any hot water about that cover image. I told him I would post a request, but also that I am powerless over this situation! LOL...anyway...8 page story in MPH due out January 10th.....
The picture is all over the internet already. I know for a fact it is in the Autoweek forums too. If you do a Google search you can find it easily.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: KISSAlien]
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12/01/05 05:58 PM
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Hey, for what it's worth, Eddie Alterman from MPH Magazine has requested that the cover image shown on this post be taken down. I guess he's concerned with DCX's possible reaction?
I had emailed him a few questions about the article, and he asked if there was anything I could do to help him avoid getting into any hot water about that cover image. I told him I would post a request, but also that I am powerless over this situation! LOL...anyway...8 page story in MPH due out January 10th.....
The picture is all over the internet already. I know for a fact it is in the Autoweek forums too. If you do a Google search you can find it easily.
doesn't mean we shouldn't try our best to oblige the guy.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: Pat_Whalen]
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12/01/05 06:07 PM
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doesn't mean we shouldn't try our best to oblige the guy.
Who said it did?
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: dezduster]
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12/01/05 06:10 PM
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The CHALLENGER WILL BE A MUCH BETTER PERFORMER THAN THE CHARGER. I dont know why but a hunch tells me so. Maybe some one could explain this to me. 
Gee, I don't know. Maybe due to the smaller platform, and the lighter body which results? 
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: Burt]
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12/01/05 09:01 PM
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I have read almost all posts in this thread and scanned past the two door vs 4 door performance car stuff. Has anyone mentioned a possible NASCAR body???
OOOOOOOOoooooooooooh!
I’m listening.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: Big Bad Bee]
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12/01/05 09:12 PM
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I have read almost all posts in this thread and scanned past the two door vs 4 door performance car stuff. Has anyone mentioned a possible NASCAR body???
OOOOOOOOoooooooooooh!
I thought that too, but I doubt it. The only reason I think theyd use it is because they say the Charger isnt too aerodynamic. But the recessed Challenger grill might be worse
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: InViolent]
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12/01/05 09:12 PM
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Hey, for what it's worth, Eddie Alterman from MPH Magazine has requested that the cover image shown on this post be taken down. I guess he's concerned with DCX's possible reaction?
I had emailed him a few questions about the article, and he asked if there was anything I could do to help him avoid getting into any hot water about that cover image. I told him I would post a request, but also that I am powerless over this situation! LOL...anyway...8 page story in MPH due out January 10th.....
As you said... for what its worth, I went back to my post and pixelated the image to obliterate the Challenger image on the cover...  As I mention in my edited post I had no idea that MPH had not released the magazine already...  Once its loose on the Internet like it was when I found it, how do you get it back in Pandora's garage? 
Did the guy from MPH indicate how he thought the image got out? Printing company maybe???  Or could someone from MPH have released the image early to raise sales of the issue... I know I will be buying a couple of copies (in disguise O'course...  ).
XS 
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