Re: Caltracs for trucks with axle above springs
[Re: mechanic190]
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09/09/15 02:24 AM
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I am doing much the same with my Ramcharger. I have a narrowed Dana 60 with a spool and 4.10s. I have already mounted the axle above the springs. In the pictures it shows the little booster springs still attached to the spring pack, I will pull those out. I plan to take the stock spring plates and mount some brackets to them that will serve as the rear point of the "KalTrak" knock offs I am building. I will reverse the plates left for right so that I can mount the shocks in front of the axle. I need to box the rear frame rails for strength and move the shock cross member forward of the axle. I have found that Cal Trac does make a large front pivot for trucks that I can buy separately, but I really need to discuss the project with them, because it might be more cost effective to have them engineer and build the pieces.
I finally have a place and the time to do all this, but I am having issues with hip joint and knee joint replacements that has been holding me back. I should be ready to go full speed in the spring
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Re: Caltracs for trucks with axle above springs
[Re: mechanic190]
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09/09/15 05:41 PM
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Yea that's what I was looking at doing. I have my fuel cell mounted behind and bolted to the shock cross member already. Why would you want the shocks in front? I have 2 reasons to move the shocks forward (1) they work better to control the spring wrap effect (the springs are not the same as on the cars) as they place the axle at the mid point on the spring, not at the front third like on a B or A body. I also want to mount them more vertically than tipped out, so the crossmember needs to be revised (2) the fuel cell that I am going to use needs to be mounted below the floor of the cabin to be fire safe and since the body is short it will have to be closer to the rear axle than in a pickup. I have a big square crossmember that I am going to substitute for the existing rear crossmember where it will mount the rear spring rollers (see picture)and the attaching points for the rear of the roll cage will be through the body and meet the top of the crossmember in the corner of the body.
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Re: Caltracs for trucks with axle above springs
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09/09/15 06:43 PM
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Yea that's what I was looking at doing. I have my fuel cell mounted behind and bolted to the shock cross member already. Why would you want the shocks in front? I have 2 reasons to move the shocks forward (1) they work better to control the spring wrap effect (the springs are not the same as on the cars) as they place the axle at the mid point on the spring, not at the front third like on a B or A body. I also want to mount them more vertically than tipped out, so the crossmember needs to be revised (2) the fuel cell that I am going to use needs to be mounted below the floor of the cabin to be fire safe and since the body is short it will have to be closer to the rear axle than in a pickup. I have a big square crossmember that I am going to substitute for the existing rear crossmember where it will mount the rear spring rollers (see picture)and the attaching points for the rear of the roll cage will be through the body and meet the top of the crossmember in the corner of the body. When you mount the shocks in front of the axle you need stronger valving to control the axle so plan on that... its a ratio thing so you can figure that on how far you move the shocks... its much easier to control the rear end from the back of the axle... but the front is fine if you get better shocks
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Re: Caltracs for trucks with axle above springs
[Re: mechanic190]
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09/09/15 08:20 PM
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We can build a set of CalTracs to fit this application, fill out one of truck dimension spec sheets off our website, calvertracing.com We can generally get the kit out within one day, cost should be around $369 plus the ride.
1970 'Cuda,Lime Light,499 Indy S/R's 10.70's @125,street driven ALOT! 1966 Barracuda 360,now a 5spd,Hemi Orange,Hot Rod Air, New daily driver-2003 Ram 2500 Cummins 5.9 '69 Valiant 2-dr, sleeper! New project---1938 Dodge truck, plan is a 360 with a A500, AC, Calvert rear susp., rack and pinion front with coils.
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Re: Caltracs for trucks with axle above springs
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09/09/15 08:40 PM
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I should be able to buy relatively cheaper adjustable shocks for a heavier vehicle and if they are mounted upright the effect, both in compression and rebound, will be more pronounced than if they were mounted at an angle like stock.
Half the pleasure in doing this is that I am looking at every part of the truck from front to back and focusing on making it a drag vehicle only. As an example I made a plate to fill the area in the firewall where the heater was and this is what I came up with...
And then a friend gave me his spare license plates and I had to built a new bumper, but that also gave me a good place to put the battery cutoff switch
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Re: Caltracs for trucks with axle above springs
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09/09/15 09:48 PM
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I should be able to buy relatively cheaper adjustable shocks for a heavier vehicle and if they are mounted upright the effect, both in compression and rebound, will be more pronounced than if they were mounted at an angle like stock.
Half the pleasure in doing this is that I am looking at every part of the truck from front to back and focusing on making it a drag vehicle only. As an example I made a plate to fill the area in the firewall where the heater was and this is what I came up with...
And then a friend gave me his spare license plates and I had to built a new bumper, but that also gave me a good place to put the battery cutoff switch Even with the shock mounted vertical is gonna take a stronger valving vs the rear mount... buy what you want to... I hope it has enough
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Re: Caltracs for trucks with axle above springs
[Re: mechanic190]
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09/10/15 01:35 AM
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As far as the front anchor for the traction device goes...I could always use the front half of the "Assassin Traction Device" and not have to wrap the anchor around the spring. http://www.srdparts.com/index.php?page=s...t&Itemid=1.
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