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Re: Small block heads [Re: mhead] #1886728 08/07/15 01:01 AM 08/07/15 01:01 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ M MoparBilly master
MoparBilly master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ	Yeah, What J said. Was simply posting in regards to the castings. They seem to work very well, just a shame Bryce is a crook. "Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks" 4 Street cars, 5 Race engines

Re: Small block heads [Re: mhead] #1886738 08/07/15 01:19 AM 08/07/15 01:19 AM
Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 5,183 P Porter67 master
Porter67 master P Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 5,183	Am glad to see some of them reported that work, but for the money id hope they would. Im sure DJ got a killer deal on the castings as the best I could get was $835 a pair for the CNC units but im sure that has changed since they seem to sell a boat load of them, ha ha, wonder how many the boat holds. But at say $850 for the castings, and the ferrea 6000 series were $300, comp springs, tit retainers I think im like $1450 with a 225 cc runner. John here is the chart from PC, I never flowed the 190 cc castings and this was said to be with the 2.02 intake.

Re: Small block heads [Re: mhead] #1886744 08/07/15 01:28 AM 08/07/15 01:28 AM
Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 5,183 P Porter67 master
Porter67 master P Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 5,183	Im lucky I found the above chart, Ive 2, 2 terabyte? drives full and its suck a cluster f---k. I do know I got 306@.550 as that was a target I had set to reach. I dont sleep much so I should find the full flow chart tonight. I really dont know if DJ used a "different" casting as some said. I cant see PC changing a core box for a small run, but what do I know. These started out as the 190cc heads.

Re: Small block heads [Re: mhead] #1886770 08/07/15 02:43 AM 08/07/15 02:43 AM
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MoparBilly master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ	So, if you consider the port work to bring them from 191 to 225 is worth 1000-1400$, you are in the same range as the AirWolfs were priced at, simply a matter of paying for it, or doing it yourself. I'm not sure what the best numbers guys are getting from the E-brock Performer RPMs. I considered the Indy 360-1 245 for my build, but when you add a grand for rockers, and considered the amount of reports I heard from end users having water leaking problems, I avoided that route. "Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks" 4 Street cars, 5 Race engines

Re: Small block heads [Re: mhead] #1886781 08/07/15 04:08 AM 08/07/15 04:08 AM
Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 429 Washington skrews mopar
skrews mopar Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 429 Washington	Kinda sucks about how things went down in regards to the Air Wolf head. IMO probably the best bang for the buck head ever offered for the SBM. I though I read some where that someone was going to acquire Bryce's program and produce them. Might have been Chad Speier, I don't recall. It would be nice if someone would pick that ball up where Bryce dropped it. Heck for that matter make an offset intake rocker version too. Like others here, I would like to have seen some real world flow #s from legitimate independent sources ( not bogus advertising #s ). Last edited by skrews; 08/07/15 04:16 AM.

Re: Small block heads [Re: Porter67] #1886811 08/07/15 10:38 AM 08/07/15 10:38 AM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	Originally Posted By Porter67 So they are cast in china, BFD. Well , for some of us it is , and for some of us it isn't. I DO get that they are an affordable alternative for many. But I also get what sending our money and jobs off shore costs us in the long run. I have no intention of changing anyone's mind. Buy them or don't. I won't.

Re: Small block heads [Re: mhead] #1886813 08/07/15 10:43 AM 08/07/15 10:43 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 792 Earth R Rob C super stock
Rob C super stock R Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 792 Earth	Perhaps a question previously asked and answered in another thread, but here it goes. How about ShaddyDell? How about the Hughesengines offerings? They have offset rockers for there moves pushrod "Big Mouth" heads. Does anyone KNOW how they perform vs. stated/claimed air flow numbers?

Re: Small block heads [Re: Porter67] #1886825 08/07/15 11:43 AM 08/07/15 11:43 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Originally Posted By Porter67 Am glad to see some of them reported that work, but for the money id hope they would. Im sure DJ got a killer deal on the castings as the best I could get was $835 a pair for the CNC units but im sure that has changed since they seem to sell a boat load of them, ha ha, wonder how many the boat holds. But at say $850 for the castings, and the ferrea 6000 series were $300, comp springs, tit retainers I think im like $1450 with a 225 cc runner. John here is the chart from PC, I never flowed the 190 cc castings and this was said to be with the 2.02 intake. Thanks for all the good info and pics!! Fastest 300

Re: Small block heads [Re: Crizila] #1886843 08/07/15 12:22 PM 08/07/15 12:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,876 Weddington, N.C. Streetwize master
Streetwize master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,876 Weddington, N.C.	Well except for the valvesprings Bryce Providing not being anywhere nere the spring pressures he stated, I'm very happy with the airwolf castings and flow. There's a related thread here: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...tml#Post1885434 WIZE World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI In Car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0

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