Re: Need some Indy cylinder head rocker arm help
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I agree with a previous poster. The blueing on your pushrods isn't from starting it after sitting a long time, it's from lack of proper oiling and the resultant heat. Probably took running it a while to get like that. Nothing is hot in a cold motor, and oil will get upstairs extremely quick, definately isn't the issue you are seeing. If I were buying new rocker gear, without question I would( and have)use Jesel. They make a setup for W2/W5 Indy stuff. I ran a set trouble free for years. The best out there.
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Re: Need some Indy cylinder head rocker arm help
[Re: justinp61]
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06/07/15 03:38 PM
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What length are the push rods? 7.813" oal, 0.160" cup depth the best I can tell with my caliper. I don't have a ball adapter for it. Diameter is 0.315". I'm coming up with 7.8000 exhaust and 7.9000 intake for pushrod length. The intakes need to be longer. Are all yours the same length?
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Re: Need some Indy cylinder head rocker arm help
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06/07/15 03:42 PM
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I agree with a previous poster. The blueing on your pushrods isn't from starting it after sitting a long time, it's from lack of proper oiling and the resultant heat. Probably took running it a while to get like that. Nothing is hot in a cold motor, and oil will get upstairs extremely quick, definately isn't the issue you are seeing. If I were buying new rocker gear, without question I would( and have)use Jesel. They make a setup for W2/W5 Indy stuff. I ran a set trouble free for years. The best out there.
Assuming I had the adjuster ball set right on the rocker which I think I was good there. Also assume that the adjuster ball and push rod were good hardened metal (which I don't really know)What is causing the oil restriction? I have plenty of oil to the top of the motor. Is it just poor rocker design?
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Re: Need some Indy cylinder head rocker arm help
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I honestly don't know. But oil isn't getting where it's needed, as is evidenced by the heat on the pushrods. Hopefully someone comes along that can look at your pictures and see exactly where the issue is.
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Re: Need some Indy cylinder head rocker arm help
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What length are the push rods? 7.813" oal, 0.160" cup depth the best I can tell with my caliper. I don't have a ball adapter for it. Diameter is 0.315". I'm coming up with 7.8000 exhaust and 7.9000 intake for pushrod length. The intakes need to be longer. Are all yours the same length? Sorry, 7.8025".
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Re: Need some Indy cylinder head rocker arm help
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06/08/15 02:53 PM
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Is it me or are some of the p-rods bent..............
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Re: Need some Indy cylinder head rocker arm help
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Is it me or are some of the p-rods bent.............. No, it's not just you Thumper.
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Re: Need some Indy cylinder head rocker arm help
[Re: mopar dave]
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06/08/15 03:38 PM
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Not sure on your Indy's but the t&d recommend one turn in minimum from fully turned out to get the oil hole properly opened up with a max of 2 turns in. TD is all different on the oil hole.. the oil comes in from the the adjuster.. his comes in from a fixed hole in the shaft area of the rocker... thats one thing thats nice about TD.. all the oil goes on to the PR(thats allowed for the PR)
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Re: Need some Indy cylinder head rocker arm help
[Re: mopar dave]
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06/08/15 04:35 PM
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You can see his oil port on his rocker... here is a set of TD.. they all tend to do the same thing.. just a matter of single shaft or multi
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Re: Need some Indy cylinder head rocker arm help
[Re: justinp61]
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Mike are those shaft or pushrod oil? The one I have shown here is a shaft oiling system.. just like a stock system... but this uses a ball and ball PR
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