Re: Tubular UCA options
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Anyone heard/had any issues passing safety inspections with these aftermarket a -arms? Are they certified for on road use? I don't think many parts are regulated by any sort of governing body. Besides lighting [DOT], safety components [DOT?], tires [DOT]..I can't think of much else...except emissions components [EPA]. Consider all the modified 4x4's for a second, there are hundreds of thousands of them throughout the states with aftermarket control arms, tie rods, drag links...even some that are completely home-brewed that go through inspections without hesitation.
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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There are some states that Heim joints are ILLEGAL for safety inspection....its been discussed on here before. A lot of jeep guys used to use them and were not passing safety so they had to go back to a bushing style system. The new johnny joints are not in the same class as a heim so they were not restricted. Tim
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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What states mandate vehicle inspections in the first place?
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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Anyone heard/had any issues passing safety inspections with these aftermarket a -arms? Are they certified for on road use? I'd assume by the response that they are not? He's in Canada, not sure how attentive the safety inspections are up there, but in TX they are a laugh.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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Yep I'm in Canada ( Ontario)I have the Hotchkis arms on now for 4 plus years. I'm just wondering if push comes to shove if these are " legal" ? The MTO ( ministry of transportation) does random inspections are they are relentless on justifying their outrageous salaries and retirement plans. They usually are not mechanics and have very little training/knowledge just lots of authority....
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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Bet that authority also says if it doesn't have an official piece of paper saying it is legal and safe, then it is not?
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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Put the protective booties on there. They will probably never notice that they are rod ends on an UCA.
Now, the Hotchkis tie rods that are rod end...not really sure about being able to hide those. I am not running those. With that being said my Hotchkis sway bars, UCAs, and subframe connectors were nice pieces. Car drives amazing now.
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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Put the protective booties on there. They will probably never notice that they are rod ends on an UCA.
Now, the Hotchkis tie rods that are rod end...not really sure about being able to hide those. I am not running those. With that being said my Hotchkis sway bars, UCAs, and subframe connectors were nice pieces. Car drives amazing now. We have booties for the end links too. Makes them "look" like a standard ball joint.
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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Warranty Claim Procedure: The answer to ALL the following questions should be YES before making a warranty claim: Is the product appropriate to your application? Did you carefully and thoroughly read the instructions provided along with the product? Do you have the original invoice or sales receipt? Is the return date within 36 months from the purchase date? Are you the original purchaser? Was the product properly installed by a qualified, licensed auto mechanic? Has the product been installed on the original vehicle on which it was installed at all times? Is the product unmodified and clean? Is the reason for return a legitimate product defect? If the answer to all these questions is YES, please contact our Customer Service Department at (562) 907- 7757.
I really don't like this. So for most of us there is no warranty. I probably know more about the car than pretty much any licensed mechanic ever will (I actually design car parts).
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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If you can talk the talk and walk the walk we can usually figure it out pretty quick. If you want us to pay your medical bills and repair your freshly restored car because you installed a leaf spring upside-down; it snapped in half and poked out your eye, it isn't going to happen and we have to cover our butts. Its the sad litigious nature of the world we live in these days. AS you or anyone professional should, because if you don't all takes is one to shut your doors and we have no more parts to buy, nobody wins, As far as the "licensed" requirement, I wonder if there is indeed a license requirement or availability in all 50 sates your products are sold in. I would think dropping licensed and changing the requirement to "experienced" would be a compromise, allow a lot of latitude for interpretation from both sides and be practical.
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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ASE Certified technician, or equivalent, would be the better choice of words... unless that's what the legal jargon is attempting to express.
However, there are some ASE Certified technicians that should not be allowed to work on any vehicles based upon their experience.
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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Competent, that should cover it.
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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I have a Genuine Federal DOT Mechanics license, but its not good in any state.....
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Re: Tubular UCA options
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Competent, that should cover it. , because if there is any sort of problem, its easy to say, that's proof enough the installer was not competent as required.
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