Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Because of it's intended use, I don't think I would bother painting it. But, that's just me!
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Go with your plan of the summit paint. Don't roll paint on it. the last thing you want to be is the laughing stock of the autocross. if you have come this far take the extra step and do the paint your self. no matter how long its been it will look way better than a roller!!.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Epoxy primer is not intended to be block sanded. You can wet sand it with 400-600 wet to knock down any dust in it.
Your plan sounds pretty reasonable, and sounds like you have some previous experience. If I was doing a down and dirty paint job on that car, I would sand it down with 320 and a DA. You really need to ensure all the areas where the clear is worn or delaminated is removed back to a solid substrate. Fix any dents etc with plastic filler or glazing putty depending on depth, or your care level. You really need a 2k primer surface to cover any body work you do. Finish that out to 320 dry. At that point you can epoxy prime the entire car. If you go with black epoxy, you can run that as a satin finish itself. While not being a topcoat, it might save you some effort and cash for your timeline. If you want to finish with the hot rod black, you can shoot the epoxy and let it flash off then shoot the topcoat over it. Your choice since it will all be masked anyway.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Go with your plan of the summit paint. Don't roll paint on it. the last thing you want to be is the laughing stock of the autocross. if you have come this far take the extra step and do the paint your self. no matter how long its been it will look way better than a roller!!.
Good Luck Google rustoleum or marine paint roll on. They can look awesome, but are labor intensive since paint is very dilute and requires multiple coats and sanding. The beauty is retouching is simple. I have seen some very good ones.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Epoxy primer is not intended to be block sanded. See? Way out of practice and out of my depth but always game to try. You really need a 2k primer surface to cover any body work you do. Finish that out to 320 dry. At that point you can epoxy prime the entire car.
So sand, fix the one ding, 2k primer (the whole car or just that area?) sand again and then hit it with epoxy primer? I'm tempted to hit the car with gloss black but just asking for trouble.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Since it is a track car...(and I suggest you try ChumpCar) I'd just prep it as best you can and let Maacco paint it. They have complete paint jobs for $259. You cannot beat that. Not around here they don't. Walk in any shop like that around here and they are like sharks that won't do anything but the top of the line.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Since it is a track car...(and I suggest you try ChumpCar) I'd just prep it as best you can and let Maacco paint it. They have complete paint jobs for $259. You cannot beat that. Not around here they don't. Walk in any shop like that around here and they are like sharks that won't do anything but the top of the line. Even if you prep it? What's the top of the line run? $500? I should have my dad come help ya. He painted my brothers 79 5.0 a nice gloss black in our driveway. Car still shiny today 15 years later.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Even if you prep it? What's the top of the line run? $500?
This is CT brother, try $3000
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Even if you prep it? What's the top of the line run? $500?
This is CT brother, try $3000 WOW.. I thought here in Md. we had it bad. They routinely have adds for 1/2 price paint jobs starting at $259. For 3k I'd have a real Pro shoot my car. Just pull it out in the yard, sand all the clear coat off, Hit it with some primer, sand and shoot your Semi-gloss black and roll.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Just pull it out in the yard, sand all the clear coat off, Hit it with some primer, sand and shoot your Semi-gloss black and roll. Actually planning on setting up plastic curtains in the big bay of the garage, that way minimize anything that gets in the paint.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Just got off the phone with a local shop, $3000-$5000 for the job even though the grill, bumper covers, door handles, mirrors, wing and trim are already off the car.
He did lower it down to $3000 after a few minutes on the phone.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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A "local shop" does not equal MAACO or Earl Scheib. You guys are talking about two entirely different kinds of paint jobs.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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A "local shop" does not equal MAACO or Earl Scheib. You guys are talking about two entirely different kinds of paint jobs.
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Let your computer fingers do the walking.....for example,
MAACO 991 Dixwell Ave. Hamden, CT 06514 203-687-4710
$1500 quote which is better than $3000 but not $259 Not sure I'd feel comfortable with a shop an hour and a half out from home with a few unobtainable Shelby parts not to mention Dixwell Ave is a very bad section of town.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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quick and easy and cheap hit it w a fresh coat of clear and it will look like a million bucks.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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It's a mid 80s Chrysler to be used on the track. Rattle can, wet sand, done. Or scratch, spray, sand, done. Heck, forget the primer! Scuff and paint! I'd like it to be done at last half way right. The primer and paint from Summit isn't that expensive and a no rot car of this vintage is rather unusual.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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