Narrowing Dana 60- Tips and pitfalls to avoid?
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Getting ready to narrow a Dana 60 to replace the 8 3/4 that we nuked..
Any tips for the first timer?
Primary worries at this point are getting the pinion offset right.......
Tips on that or any other pitfalls to avoid?
Rearend going under stock bodied 74 Dart........10 sec car.....
Thanks in advance!
Curator at Adams County Speed Shop
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Re: Narrowing Dana 60- Tips and pitfalls to avoid?
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Make the drivers tube 1 3/8" longer than the pass side. That will place the pinion in the proper offset location.
A Dana 60 center section is ~17.5" across, easy to figure the rest from there. I made a spreadsheet to calculate tube lengths. No do not, the 8 3/4 is centered with an off set pinion! Measure the offset in the Dana and 8 3/4 then give me a good reason to make different length tubes! In fact if you had 35 spline axels in the 8 3/4 use them with the ends, they are the same.
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Re: Narrowing Dana 60- Tips and pitfalls to avoid?
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I made an axle/housing calculator that will output the dimensions based on the information you give it. If you already have the axles, it will calculate the housing measurements. If you already have the housing, it will calculate the axle length. If you don't have anything, it will create both based on the overall width and your desired pinion offset. http://www.doctordiff.com/axle-calculator/The diagrams at the bottom explain "A" "B" and "C" dimension. Works for 8 3/4", Dana 60, and Ford 9."
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Re: Narrowing Dana 60- Tips and pitfalls to avoid?
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Make the drivers tube 1 3/8" longer than the pass side. That will place the pinion in the proper offset location.
A Dana 60 center section is ~17.5" across, easy to figure the rest from there. I made a spreadsheet to calculate tube lengths. No do not, the 8 3/4 is centered with an off set pinion! Measure the offset in the Dana and 8 3/4 then give me a good reason to make different length tubes! In fact if you had 35 spline axels in the 8 3/4 use them with the ends, they are the same. Because the pinion ends up in the wrong place on a D60 with the axle tubes the same length. Is that a good enough reason? You are 100% correct that the 8.75 rear end pinion offset is taken up by the third member. We just shortened a rear to A body length and it was on the money equi-length tubes. Since the OP is doing a D60, what you would do on an 8.75 is not relevant. I prefer to mimic the std mopar offset and not jerry-rig the deal. The Doc knows way more than me and we have the same offset axle lengths, that's good enough for me to do it right!
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Re: Narrowing Dana 60- Tips and pitfalls to avoid?
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Thanks for the responses guys. ..I need all the help I can get....
Curator at Adams County Speed Shop
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Re: Narrowing Dana 60- Tips and pitfalls to avoid?
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05/29/15 10:24 AM
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I made an axle/housing calculator that will output the dimensions based on the information you give it. If you already have the axles, it will calculate the housing measurements. If you already have the housing, it will calculate the axle length. If you don't have anything, it will create both based on the overall width and your desired pinion offset. http://www.doctordiff.com/axle-calculator/The diagrams at the bottom explain "A" "B" and "C" dimension. Works for 8 3/4", Dana 60, and Ford 9." I used Dr. Diff calculator, cut the housing with a portable bandsaw and had a shop jig/weld on late model big bearing ford ends. bolted on a set of junkyard 2000 ford explorer disc brakes w/ parking brakes. everything went great.
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Re: Narrowing Dana 60- Tips and pitfalls to avoid?
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FWIW when I was looking up the BOM numbers for Dana rears, they do show a Dana 61 w/ 3.73 and 4.10 gears. I've never heard of anything lower than 3.54 for the 61 either. Whether or not they actually exist, I can't say.
I almost bought a Dana just a week or so ago. Thought for sure it was a 3.54 geared 60...turned out to be a 61. If it doesn't have the "60" cast into the webbing near the cover, you better check the BOM on the passenger's side tube.
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Re: Narrowing Dana 60- Tips and pitfalls to avoid?
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Lots of good tips here....I appreciate the info and help
That calculator on Dr Diffs sight is way cool........
Didnt realize that was on there....quite a valuable resource!
Curator at Adams County Speed Shop
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Re: Narrowing Dana 60- Tips and pitfalls to avoid?
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Mopar engineers didn't design the 60, Dana engineers did to mopar requirements.... All the factory installed Dana 60 come with the right side(pasenger side) axles and tubes shorter than the drivers side I love it when some enthusiast has a better handle on what to do on narrowing rear ends to make them better than the Mopar engineers did
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Re: Narrowing Dana 60- Tips and pitfalls to avoid?
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I built one out of a dana 60hd once, the guy who did the narrowing/ends said his machine could barely handle it. It was free as I already had it sitting in my yard. It worked fine, but like mentioned, they are heavy.
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