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Hardened Valve Seats #1818882
05/04/15 10:10 PM
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For a stock 383, is it necessary to put hardened valve seats on the intakes, just the exhaust or both?


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Re: Hardened Valve Seats [Re: markz528] #1819466
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Since you've gotten no replies, I'll bite. Intake no. Exhaust is debatable and may depend on intended usage. I know of some very knowledgeable/reputable guys who say you don't need it, especially for an engine that won't see too many miles.

I have torn down a 300K mile 383 with 906 heads which had been running on unleaded for the past 25 or so years. It has some noticeable valve depression on 2 or 3 exhaust valves. Not sure if lead additive was used often, but I know it wasn't always used. 300K on a set of heads isn't too shabby.

Whats the background on the situation/what is the engine for?

452 and later heads came with hardened exhaust seats.


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Re: Hardened Valve Seats [Re: markz528] #1819471
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I do know that cast iron now days is much harder than it was years
ago(easy to spot by the ring ridge in the bores).. in the old engines
that I tested back in high school both valve would sink.. the exhaust
would go about double the intake.. but if this is just a week end ride
I wouldnt worry a ton about either.. but if you plan on decent mileage
I would do the exhaust seat
EDIT
I wish I could remember when they changed the nickle content
in the iron so I could give you a better answer
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Re: Hardened Valve Seats [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1819517
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Thanks for the responses.

This is my anal restoration car. Wont see a lot of miles. Engine builder says to do the exhaust but not the intakes.

Don't know if I should overrule him and spend the extra $200 to get the intakes done too.


67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph
67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
Re: Hardened Valve Seats [Re: markz528] #1819570
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I hope your anus gets well soon after the restoration!

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Re: Hardened Valve Seats [Re: markz528] #1819586
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Wouldn't installing stainless steel valves eliminate that issue. ?

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Re: Hardened Valve Seats [Re: pattyboy 572] #1820199
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It is the seats that get beat out and a stainless valve wont help that. It is a crap shoot on the old iron heads, I have seen some with the exhaust so sunk, it was a miracle it even ran. I would just do the exhaust, it always worked for me.

Re: Hardened Valve Seats [Re: markz528] #1820204
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Put them on the exhaust only. Seen enough of them w/ valves sunk really far into the head that I'd never run a set w/o hardened exhaust seats.


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