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Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? #1811861
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So I just dropped 51 pounds. (Yay,Me!) After I have Liberty go through the gears, I'm going to get a Passon aluminum case setup for my four speed. Already have a 20 pound aluminum 143 tooth flywheel. Does anyone know of an aluminum or lightweight steel housing that is affordable? Quicktime doesn't make one for a 143 tooth flywheel. Trick Titanium and others are $2,000 and up. I just need something for a bracket car, not a Prostock or Promod.


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Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: sgcuda] #1811941
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If you get the Trick can, you'll have bragging rights laugh2

Is 2K a used price?

Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: roadhazard] #1811972
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$2000. for a bell housing?????? I could think of a lot of things to over come the weight of a steel bell.


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Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: roadhazard] #1811984
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Originally Posted By roadhazard
If you get the Trick can, you'll have bragging rights laugh2

Is 2K a used price?

New. But doesn't include a liner. What do I need a liner for, anyway? Can I run it without a liner? Planning on using a sintered iron single disc setup. Racingjunk has Browell cans for $800, but I don't see any holes for linkage, and they only bolt up to Lenco's. Damn, why is racing a Mopar always such a pain in the butt?


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Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: sgcuda] #1812100
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I went through this trying to get something to work with my Lenco deal. The problem with most of the higher end used bells for sale is depth. The stock Mopar dimension is 7.5" and most of the cans you see are 8" or better. That won't work so hot with a single or even dual disc clutch in most cases. If you figure that out then you have to open up the fire wall, etc. I plan on getting a new Browell from MR2 Performance or possible a custom from Lakewood/Quicktime. They were both around $1000 from what I remember. Let us know what you figure out.



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Staying with 143 tooth is whats going to get yah. The lakewood is the only one I know of accepting the 143, otherwise everything is 130. I just bought a new Browell aluminum with the liner from Bickel for just under 2k, set up for cross-shaft etc. and takes about 6-8weeks to get. The steel ones are a couple hundred bucks cheaper.

If you already have your sintered iron stuff your kinda stuck as the PP will not bolt up to a 130tooth flywheel. You'd almost be better off selling your current setup and going to a 10.5 setup vs the 11" setup. Or just take the weight and go with a Lakewood.

McCleod was supposed to be in the works for a steel housing as well. But I bet its still a ways off.

Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: sgcuda] #1812219
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Double checked the Trick website. $1,995 is there price for an SFI aluminum can. Not a bad price, in comparison, I guess. If I can order a Quicktime custom piece to fit my combo for a grand, that would be great! Something to check into... I have religiously run Ram clutches, usually using a 10.95" B&B 3200 lb. plate and Ram Metallic sprung disc. Peer pressure has me leaning towards a Long style plate and sintered iron disc, which they only make in an 11" setup. I have never had an issue with the B&B setup, but I was only running 9.90's with the steel head motor. Lot's more power with the 500" Indy head combo. Trying to keep the hemi box alive a little longer. McLeod still only lists Chevy housings. If I go for a Trick piece, I'd probably check into getting it drilled for a Liberty or G Force pattern, also. Wanting to go clutchless down the road.


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Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: sgcuda] #1812313
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Did you check with M2R on the Browell? How heavy is the car? I'll bet that poor a-833 doesn't last long behind the 500" engine if you don't find a way to slip the clutch. My plan for my 511" single 4 barrel deal is to run a ceramic disc and spippity slip slip off the line and on the shift. It's murder on the clutch setup but the trans is more expensive to break and harder to find parts for. Last time I talked to Passon he was out of aluminum cases but did have aluminum tail shafts and side covers in stock.

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Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: sgcuda] #1812477
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Browell's website shows all of their 6.1 housings are $2,075. I don't know who M2R is. Member? Seller? I plan on one of the new Ram Long PP and a sintered iron disc. Looks like a good setup to allow slip on the launch and gear changes. I'll probably buy whatever Passon has available and order main case later on. Makes my cash out a little easier, anyway. Car weighed somewhere near the 2,800 mark before. Trying to get her down between 2,600 and 2,700 ready to race. I'm guessing bellhousing, flywheel, trans case and me should do it. Plus, I'm changing over to Strange struts with and brakes at minimum, if I don't change out the front end all together.


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Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: sgcuda] #1813066
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Called tech support at prestolite performance on a custom Quicktime bell. Jimmy said one could probably be built around $1,200-$1,500. Takes about 90 days. Didn't seem very enthusiastic about it, but said it shouldn't be a problem. Anyone have any experience with Quicktime? I thought I heard something about the quality of their bell's.


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Originally Posted By sgcuda
So I just dropped 51 pounds. (Yay,Me!) After I have Liberty go through the gears, I'm going to get a Passon aluminum case setup for my four speed. Already have a 20 pound aluminum 143 tooth flywheel. Does anyone know of an aluminum or lightweight steel housing that is affordable? Quicktime doesn't make one for a 143 tooth flywheel. Trick Titanium and others are $2,000 and up. I just need something for a bracket car, not a Prostock or Promod.


If it's a BRACKET car does it really need a lightweight bellhousing ? Heads up maybe , but brackets ???

Also you'll need an SFI bell and I imagine that an Alum. bell with a liner that can withstand a clutch explosion is going to weigh as much as a steel SFI bell ???

Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: JohnRR] #1813148
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I went Lakewood because used ones are fairly easy to find and they accept either a 143 or 130 tooth flywheel. I paid about $200 for the bell. I also went with a 10.5 mc load flywheel which set me back about $400. If you want budget and stout for a bracket car it's tough to beat that combo.

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Already have a Lakewood shield. Those things are heavy. The object here is to lose some weight during the rebuild.


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Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: roadhazard] #1813510
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The clutch flywheel combo you have is 40 year old technology. Step up to 130 tooth wheel and a long pp. Then you can go on e bay and buy a Quicktime bellhousing for under $600. My entire clutch assembly weighs only 2 lbs more than your flywheel. But what I have is overkill for a bracket car. Call up Rob Youngblood at Advanced Clutches he can set you up with what you need and it will live and not break parts.


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Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: 1DGEMAN] #1813557
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Originally Posted By 1DGEMAN
The clutch flywheel combo you have is 40 year old technology. Step up to 130 tooth wheel and a long pp. Then you can go on e bay and buy a Quicktime bellhousing for under $600. My entire clutch assembly weighs only 2 lbs more than your flywheel. But what I have is overkill for a bracket car. Call up Rob Youngblood at Advanced Clutches he can set you up with what you need and it will live and not break parts.


What kind of price range am I looking at? His stuff looks all high end.


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You are talking about spending 2grand on a bellhousing and still running an outdated clutch. Buy the quicktime at $600 that frees up $1400. I don't quote Rob's prices call him up talk to him. He is a great guy to deal with and has extensive clutch knowledge. Tell him Rod sent you.


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Re: Big Block Lightweight SFI Bellhousings? On a Budget??? [Re: sgcuda] #1813582
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OK, all ready. Sheesh. I get this pressure from my wife. I'll call him tomorrow. Thanks. BTW, with his flywheels, have you noticed a drop in 60ft. times? What trans are you running?


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Scored a Quicktime bell on E bag for $575 shipped. Next stop, aluminum trans housing, and then an Advanced clutch setup. Guess I'll clean up my Lakewood shield and list it with my 143t aluminum wheel.


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