Re: grand cherokee eco-diesel opinions
[Re: 79powerwagon]
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03/30/15 01:56 AM
03/30/15 01:56 AM
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mopardude318
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My girlfriend and I own a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Eco-Diesel. Bought it new in October 2014, so far we have 13,000 miles on it. No real problems with it, it gets pretty good gas mileage, about 26-27 MPG mixed city and highway driving.
The power is good, we live on a ranch and constantly drive on dirt/gravel roads, uphill to our house. You can feel 4 wheel drive kick in automatically and feel the immediate traction. Handling is great, high speed travel, all good road feel-nice and solid.
Now the bad, within the first 3 weeks of ownership, the check engine light came on, which of course, disables the remote start function..Rather annoying...Took it to the dealer, they reflashed everything and did a "software update".
Got it back, all is good for a week, then same thing, check engine light comes on, so they do another "software update", and also state that it needs a new redesigned catalytic converter, which of course is on back order and we are number 400-something, and that it wont be instock for several months....so we drive it with the check engine light on, which they say is harmless..
The following month I top off the DEF fluid with the "available everywhere" BLUE DEF from the parts stores. After topping off and driving a hundred miles, the check engine light comes on and "Incorrect DEF fluid, see dealer" comes up in the display. So they clear that code, do another "software update" and and state that it is recommended that I only use Mopar DEF at $11 bucks a gallon versus the $12 per 2.5 gallon jug at the parts store. dont know what the eff that was about, but OKAY. I don't buy it...
So we have it back now, and a couple weeks ago, a "service shifter, see dealer" lights up on the display. No problem in shifting gears or anything, but the little button you push on the shifter mechanism to get into gear, sticks in, and then playing with it for a minute, pops out...LOL...so it's back in the dealer for a replacement part within the shifter mechanism, which of course is not in stock and will take a week to get there...And the service guy states this is extremely odd, never heard of that shifter problem before...LOL
I pick it up on tuesday, Ill keep ya updated. I will remain optimistic, because i do like this Jeep, it handles great, gets good gas mileage, and has good power. But for 45 grand, jee whiz, why all the frickin software updates!!!!???
I'll keep ya updated....
408 Stroker 533 HP 520 FT LBS...........................1970 Dart RMS AlterKation
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Re: grand cherokee eco-diesel opinions
[Re: mopardude318]
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03/30/15 11:09 PM
03/30/15 11:09 PM
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Mopardude 318, that sounds just like what most of the other people on the jeep forums were saying about their issues. A couple of reflashes followed by a new converter. Also jerky trans shifting at low speeds like in parking lots. What I also read is this was mostly on the early 2014 models. What kind of DEF consumption is everyone experiencing ? The estimate was that you should be able to get more than 10k miles out of a tank of 8 gallons of DEF, but the guys a Edmunds that did a long term test on the diesel ram were going through 3 or more times that amount of DEF fluid. Are oil filters finally available for less than $60 like they were charging at the dealers ?
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Re: grand cherokee eco-diesel opinions
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03/31/15 04:31 PM
03/31/15 04:31 PM
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mopardude318
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For oil changes I just bought the dealership package for 1200 bucks, which if I have it changed every 6000 miles, I'm good for 120,000 miles of oil changes. Costing $60 dollars each oil change. (20 oil changes total)
I thought 60 bucks for an oil change was a decent deal for 8 qts of synthetic and a filter.
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Re: grand cherokee eco-diesel opinions
[Re: mopardude318]
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03/31/15 07:47 PM
03/31/15 07:47 PM
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79powerwagon
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I thought 60 bucks for an oil change was a decent deal for 8 qts of synthetic and a filter.
It is. I just paid $92.00 for 5 qts Mobil One and a filter for my Mazda...
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Re: grand cherokee eco-diesel opinions
[Re: allmopar]
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03/31/15 08:52 PM
03/31/15 08:52 PM
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Twostick
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Mopardude 318, that sounds just like what most of the other people on the jeep forums were saying about their issues. A couple of reflashes followed by a new converter. Also jerky trans shifting at low speeds like in parking lots. What I also read is this was mostly on the early 2014 models. What kind of DEF consumption is everyone experiencing ? The estimate was that you should be able to get more than 10k miles out of a tank of 8 gallons of DEF, but the guys a Edmunds that did a long term test on the diesel ram were going through 3 or more times that amount of DEF fluid. Are oil filters finally available for less than $60 like they were charging at the dealers ?
Just for giggles, ask them what that new converter would cost off warranty. Make sure you are sitting down when you ask. Does it have a diesel particulate filter? (DPF) That would be another source of sit down news preferably with sedation.
As much as I would like to have a new diesel daily driver, it's never going to happen. 90% of people buying them won't live long enough for the fuel mileage to pay for the upcharge in the purchase price never mind the cost of keeping all that emissions junk operational.
My experience with the new diesels is in Class 8 trucks. Based on some of my colleagues experiences I have concluded that if you need 1 truck you have to buy 3 plus a tow truck. 1 truck to be broke down on the side of the road with. The second truck to the rescue on the back of the tow truck and the third truck ready to be towed to the second truck when it croaks. Rinse and repeat...
Kevin
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Re: grand cherokee eco-diesel opinions
[Re: Twostick]
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04/01/15 12:05 AM
04/01/15 12:05 AM
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mopardude318
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Lol. Yea that catylatic device was north of 900 bucks if I had to purchase it. Just damn...
408 Stroker 533 HP 520 FT LBS...........................1970 Dart RMS AlterKation
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