Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: Dragula]
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03/18/15 01:18 PM
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Just look up slew rate and index racing....
[url=http://etdragracing.com/magazine/2014-autumn/dead-on-why-is-bracket-racing-the-only-form-of-racing-without-rules?fb_action_ids=743961339005287&fb_action_types=og.comments&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5B274256132698516%5D&action_type_map=%5B"og.comments"%5D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D]http://etdragracing.com/magazine/2014-au..._ref_map=%5B%5D[/url]
thats all opinion and speculation. the technology has been there for many years. I am sure there are a few low lifes that would still cheat to win. and there are rules preventing it in bracket racing just not policed.
Either you didn't read the article, or nobody is using it then....
I read a guys opinion on what he thinks, nothing more
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Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: rickstershemi]
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03/18/15 10:52 PM
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Leon441
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I would tend to agree. But, you can tell the electronics to start timing on the release of the footbrake. All you have to do is remove 12 volts from the input. Knows guy who did this for a local racer. I don't agree with cheating.
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: rickstershemi]
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03/18/15 11:00 PM
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NO BOX SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO RUN A TRANSBRAKE PERIOD.....HAS RUINED THE CLASS
Rickster
At my closest track they run transbrakes and air/electric shifters in no box. Hardly any foot brake classes around here anymore.
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Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: Leon441]
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03/18/15 11:04 PM
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rickstershemi
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I would tend to agree. But, you can tell the electronics to start timing on the release of the footbrake. All you have to do is remove 12 volts from the input. Knows guy who did this for a local racer. I don't agree with cheating.
That would still involve a T-Brake and I said NO T-Brakes.....kinda hard to hide a trans-brake
Rickster
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Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: sgcuda]
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03/19/15 12:09 PM
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If people want to cheat they will. proven fact all you can do is look for little hints. I footbrake and I could careless if the guy next to me has a T-brake. I run Box class sometimes to footbraking.
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Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: kissmyaspen]
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03/19/15 02:15 PM
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If people want to cheat they will. proven fact all you can do is look for little hints. I footbrake and I could careless if the guy next to me has a T-brake. I run Box class sometimes to footbraking.
This right here^^^^^^^^^ Run your own car, take care of your own business and stop worrying about what everybody else is doing and you will likely win more.
Monte
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Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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03/19/15 05:17 PM
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I agree, YOU control who wins the race in bracket racing! The person can only make it harder or easier for you to win, he has no control of what you do. Cut a perfect light and run the number,you win,period. Worrying what the other guy is doing looses more races because he gets in your head. What's in the other lane can be dogs,tigers, trees or houses, in fact nothing need be there since you are running on time only with your package. He can have all the tricks but they don't work unless YOU let them.
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Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: cudaman1969]
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03/19/15 05:45 PM
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I agree, YOU control who wins the race in bracket racing! The person can only make it harder or easier for you to win, he has no control of what you do. Cut a perfect light and run the number,you win,period. Worrying what the other guy is doing looses more races because he gets in your head. What's in the other lane can be dogs,tigers, trees or houses, in fact nothing need be there since you are running on time only with your package. He can have all the tricks but they don't work unless YOU let them.
Your almost right... when my brother and I were racing a guy(now a top fuel driver.. was a pro stock driver) we had some very good packages but he always had a better one... then we learned about a thing called a Matty box... enough said
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Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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03/19/15 05:54 PM
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I was wondering how long it was going to take for the Dirty Dozen to come up. They did get banded from IHRA and Norwalk except for the divisional and national event. But they did not find what they really did.
79 Dodge Aspen 12.265 at 109.75 MPH
67 Satellite NSS/E 11.83 @ 110
1968 Plymouth Road Runner 472 Hemi
3 time MOPAR NATIONALS CHAMP '03 FWD and '06 & '09 Street. '07, '10, '12 Mopar Nats runner-up Street.
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Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: kissmyaspen]
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03/19/15 06:17 PM
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I was wondering how long it was going to take for the Dirty Dozen to come up. They did get banded from IHRA and Norwalk except for the divisional and national event. But they did not find what they really did.
No they did not find anything... they beat feet before they could check them... we use to run Norwalk a lot and did up to a couple of years ago when I really backed off on racing... still love that track
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Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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03/19/15 06:38 PM
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I won't beat the horse but yes Bader found out how they were winning. And it was shown to him.
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Re: checking for hidden delay box
[Re: Eric]
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03/19/15 06:42 PM
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I won't beat the horse but yes Bader found out how they were winning. And it was shown to him.
Yep... I commend the Baders for what they did.. those are good people
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