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440-500 Stroker Oil Pan #1777794
03/12/15 12:05 PM
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Can find a straight-up answer anywhere so maybe someone can recommend.

Building a 500 Stroker from 440 Block. Windage-tray will obviously need to be clearanced.

Will a Stock Hemi Oil-Pan work or do I need to consider something else. I do not want anything deep sump such as Milodon. Car will have a pro-street stance and do not want to rip open the oil pan on a bump in the road.

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Re: 440-500 Stroker Oil Pan [Re: BAD BIRD] #1777795
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Yes, the hemi/6 pack pan will work. Lots of people use that pan on some pretty stout motors. I'm putting one on a 540" street hemi.


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: 440-500 Stroker Oil Pan [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1777796
03/12/15 12:54 PM
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Save yourself the hassle and just buy a stroker windage tray from 440Source or Milodon.

If you use the Hemi pan, DO NOT use the HV oil pump, use the stock pump.

Re: 440-500 Stroker Oil Pan [Re: Stanton] #1777797
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Thanks for the quick replies!!

Windage tray ordered! (440 Source)
Oil Pan and Pickup Ordered! (Mancini)

Re: 440-500 Stroker Oil Pan [Re: Stanton] #1777798
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Save yourself the hassle and just buy a stroker windage tray from 440Source or Milodon.

If you use the Hemi pan, DO NOT use the HV oil pump, use the stock pump.




Out of curiosity why not? will it be sucked out faster then the oil can return to the pan?

Re: 440-500 Stroker Oil Pan [Re: CTD5.9] #1777799
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will it be sucked out faster then the oil can return to the pan?




It "can" be on something like a quartermile pass.

The HV takes more HP to drive and puts more strain on the drive gear/shaft. Not much, but some never-the-less. What's the point of a HV pump if its giving you too much pressure or pushing oil through the bypass? If you have loose clearances and the standard pump won't give you the necessary pressures, put a stiffer relief spring in the bypass first. If that doesn't fix it then step up to the HV pump.

Re: 440-500 Stroker Oil Pan [Re: BAD BIRD] #1777800
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What year car and body style and the same on which year Hemi oil pan?If a 1970/71 426 hemi and 440 6 pak oil pan they work great on the 1966 to 1971 B bodys and E bodys, if you slide the BB motors back one inch in the A bodys and trim the K member a little they work great in them also BTW, what stroke and rod size are you using? If Mopar rod size and 4.250 or longer stroke you may and probally will have crankshaft and rod to windage tray problems I had a bunch of billet aluminum 1/4 inch thick oil pan spacers made several years back for this application, I have some of them in stock still for sale If your using a crank with 2.200 (BB Chevy size)or smaller rod journals and steel rods you will be fine with a 4.250 stroke cranks or shorter except for the oil pump boss, it will need some, not a bunch , material ground off of it for clearances As far as a high volume oil pump I use them all the time with both years stock hemi oil pans with no problems at all as long as I keep the oil level between the full mark and the add one quart mark on calibrated dipsticks I use the stock 3/8 inch 440 oil pickups also I have all my cams grooved on all my roller cam motors
to oil the rockers full time to help cool the valve springs that aren't using the Indy heads I do cut the oil pump bypass spring down so the motor will have 10 lbs. of oil pressure for each thousand RPM with hot oil, IE shift at 7000 RPM with 70 lbs oil pressure with hot oil IHTHS


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Re: 440-500 Stroker Oil Pan [Re: Stanton] #1777801
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will it be sucked out faster then the oil can return to the pan?




It "can" be on something like a quartermile pass.

The HV takes more HP to drive and puts more strain on the drive gear/shaft. Not much, but some never-the-less. What's the point of a HV pump if its giving you too much pressure or pushing oil through the bypass? If you have loose clearances and the standard pump won't give you the necessary pressures, put a stiffer relief spring in the bypass first. If that doesn't fix it then step up to the HV pump.




The spring is just for over pressure.. if its not
making the pressure with the standard pump it wont
matter what spring you have in it.. the HV will increase
the flow by about 25% and if its enough flow then it
should increase the pressure(across the whole range)

Re: 440-500 Stroker Oil Pan [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1777802
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Thank you. It's time people understand how the oiling system really works.

R.

Re: 440-500 Stroker Oil Pan [Re: dogdays] #1777803
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Thank you. It's time people understand how the oiling system really works.

R.




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