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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: ParaFrog88] #1776959
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Thanks for the info guys. My 01 was a six speed and I really liked that truck and it was super strong and felt like it could pull my house off its foundation. It had a weird booster problem that they simply could not fix. After about $5000 and towing it four times with all of the brakes locked up solid I traded it in at Holley Dodge in CT for the 05 auto I have now. I will not be without a diesel again and hope this one lasts a long time.

Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: mymcodebee] #1776960
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Did the injectors in my dads 04 cummins. Spent the money on good injectors, not cheap chinese remans. Parts alone was close to $3K. We had it done in about 6 hours.


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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: Triple Threat] #1776961
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Was it a large noticeable difference when the new injectors were installed. Power, gas mileage, etc. Of course this question is for anyone who only replaced them to be proactive not the ones that replaced them because that were done.

Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: mymcodebee] #1776962
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Ive never done the injectors on a pickup truck but on the big trucks we usually see a decrease in power and an increase in fuel mileage when we replace them.

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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: mymcodebee] #1776963
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Myself I'd get some 100hp or so injectors. You'll get more hp/trq and better mpg's at the same time. I never worked on a diesel engine in my life before I got my truck... did a little research and changed the injectors in mine in a few hours.


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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: Silver70] #1776964
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Myself I'd get some 100hp or so injectors. You'll get more hp/trq and better mpg's at the same time. I never worked on a diesel engine in my life before I got my truck... did a little research and changed the injectors in mine in a few hours.




Just one of the advantages of diesels. Hop them up easy and get better fuel mileage. Try doing that with a gas pig.


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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1776965
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Myself I'd get some 100hp or so injectors. You'll get more hp/trq and better mpg's at the same time. I never worked on a diesel engine in my life before I got my truck... did a little research and changed the injectors in mine in a few hours.




Just one of the advantages of diesels. Hop them up easy and get better fuel mileage. Try doing that with a gas pig.




For $3000 I can rebuild a V10 and zero deck the pistons and get significantly more MPG and power. Heck I could even throw in a little port work on the heads and regrind the cam for more power/mpg for a few hundred more. The gas motor is not rocket science. The reason no one wants one is the stigma associated with less mpg but no one sits down and puts real numbers on paper. Back in 96 when diesel was a lot cheaper than gasolie sure, cummins makes the most sense but this is not 96 any more and the 12 valve is almost 20 years old and the 24 valve is very expensive and no where near the mpg.


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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: HotRodDave] #1776966
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Yeah, yeah, what ever you say, spend all that money, energy and time doing that to the V10 to get a little more power. It still won't get any better mileage and you'll be running premium fuel on top of that which is the same price as diesel. Sounds like a case of diesel envy to me.

BTW, tell me do they still make a truck V10? I can't remember. Things were so great they only made them for 10 years, just long enough to recoup the R&D on them.


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2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1776967
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Nope, had a couple diesels and don't miss them at all.

I have built magnum motors, a lot of them, and I can assure you from personal expience they respond VERY favorably to a few minor changes both with more power and more MPG. One time I took a 318 magnum, ran real tight quench and picked up 3+ mpg and had less pinging with no other changes at all. I have also seen substancial improvement in MPG and TQ with regrinding the cam to reduce overlap and increase lift a little. Injector swaps help a lot also. Again this is my personal experience with my money no one is paying my to sell a V10.

The reason no one bought the V10 is they failed to do the math when the times changed and diesel went way higher than gas. Even a stock V10 pulls better than a stock 12V hands down.


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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: HotRodDave] #1776968
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I've used this guy and I've been very pleased. Great to work with, high quality, great price. http://www.fuelinjectorconnection.com/shop/

Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: wedgeheaded] #1776969
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I have 486225 miles on my '06 CTD Dually. Never had the valve cover off. I fuel up at the end of a run which is daily. I buy fuel at my Speedway station and change the fuel filter every 20,000 miles. Maybe I better knock on wood.

Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: Michael] #1776970
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I have 486225 miles on my '06 CTD Dually. Never had the valve cover off. I fuel up at the end of a run which is daily. I buy fuel at my Speedway station and change the fuel filter every 20,000 miles. Maybe I better knock on wood.




You are way over due for a valve adjustment check.... You may not need any adjustments but a overhead check is a real good idea....


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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: HotRodDave] #1776971
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The reason no one bought the V10 is they failed to do the math when the times changed and diesel went way higher than gas. Even a stock V10 pulls better than a stock 12V hands down.




I know exactly what both can do and the 12 valve will still return at least twice the fuel mileage. With mild upgrades like a fuel pin, exhaust and timing bump the 12 valve walks all over the V10, will out live the V10 and will still get twice the mileage.

I'm still not sure who you are trying to convince here since the OP said nothing about V10's to start with.

So let's do a little real world math. I drive a minimum of 480 miles/week. With my 12 valve getting 23 MPG that's 21 gallons a week at $2.90/gallon equals $60.52.

My V10 at 10 mpg is 48 gallons of gas at $2.40/gallon equals $115.20.

In 1 year that is a difference of $2843.36, in 2 years $5686.72, in 3 years it's $8530.08. The diesel engine option has already paid for itself and will continue to pay for itself with at least twice the longevity of the V10. Oil changes are a wash because you can go twice as long on a diesel between changes. Fuel filters are a non issue because spark plugs, coils and wires aren't free either.

So let's just agree to disagree. You keep your V10 and I'll keep my diesel.


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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1776972
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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1776973
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Yep....100% agree.......I have had 3 V10's, numerous 12 valves and one 24 valve and my 12 valve's were "by far" the best on fuel economy, pulling power and longevity.... 12 valve engines are the cat's ass..... (no pun intended)


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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: E-Ticket] #1776974
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I had a patient yesterday with an 06' with 765000. He bought it new. 2wd, stick, drw. Lifelong ford guy, well not anymore.lol. He said aside from normal wear stuff he's done a water pump, he thought a tps and a piece of the engine harness. Nothing internal, and still pulls daily with it.

Don't downplay reman injectors either. I have put many in duramax's, N14. 3406, 7.3's etc... They are not done by some joe blow at his kitchen table. Many come with warranties and I've never had to pull one I've put in. Some guys just weigh the cost vs benefit of new for their application.

You can also run an oil sample on it. See if your making oil etc. that's always good knowledge to have. Good luck.

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I replaced the injector tips on my 05. The engine was starting to sound a little rough. After doing some research, I sent the injectors to F1 diesel, and had them test and install their nozzles. The cost was $1400. The engine runs smoother, but no change in performance. The only problem was that it took 3 weeks to get them back. The job itself is not too bad, but the forums are full of people who run into problems.

Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: tahoechallenge] #1776976
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There is not enough space on the internet for me to post my stories on Cummins and V10 trucks, but most of you have heard them all anyway. I think the next truck I will buy is a Hemi...


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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: mymcodebee] #1776977
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At 200k, the v10 is probably done, and cummins may need injectors...
Think this is more of a pay me now or pay me later scenario... cost to own and drive is about the same, now buying a gas is much less, but you also get about that same spread less when you sell a gas rig compared to a cummins....


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Re: Just got an estimate on my 2005 Dually Injectors.?? [Re: dynotune440] #1776978
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Great info guys. Thanks for all the input!!

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