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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: dakotawilly]
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03/07/15 11:20 PM
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How bout a poll, what would you build for yourself or your next customer in line if you have a shop?
I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: HotRodDave]
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03/08/15 02:39 AM
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4.5in Bore, 9.00 and 9.5in deck B block. 4 bolt mains w/ 2 45deg bolts in the direction of bore travel.
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: Adrielp]
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03/08/15 03:06 AM
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dakotawilly
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world is now producing a new 409 w block ! i mean really? how many of those do you think they will sell? thats a massive stab in the dark compared to a new mopar block.if they can do the tooling to sell one of those a year then a mopar deal would be a walk in the park.donovan still sells 392 blocks.how many followers there under the age of 90? i mean truthfully thats a 60 year old design.if we all stand by and not say or do anything,in a few years we all will need to buy a 3d printer to go drag racing.not so crazy when u put this idea into real life perspective is it?
SFI 25.5 depends,no leak,even at 213 mph....
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: dakotawilly]
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03/08/15 06:14 PM
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And you can get an aluminum AMC block but no SB mopar, what the heck?
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: dogdays]
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03/09/15 10:18 PM
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A lot of it is Mopar guys don't go through parts like toilet paper. Our expectations have always been durability to the 9's..
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: 72Swinger]
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03/10/15 03:07 AM
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The problem as I see it. There are likely 2000 people looking into 1 of 3 types of chevy after market blocks a year. 1500 people wanting 1 of 3 types of ford blocks per year. AND WAIT FOR IT MAYBE 300 MOPAR folks wanting 1 of 5 types of blocks per year. PLUS they want the ceramic graphite impregnated unobtaniom impacted awesomeness option for a 100 dollars more than the 1500$ they are willing to pay for one of the five blocks. So 3 variations of each block and that's fifteen variations. Yes I saw the pole results I voted small block why because I have 6 440 long blocks,1 400 complete,000 spare 340 blocks and mine is at 4.100 bore. Could care less about gen II Hemi can barely afford to type it. But what I really wanted to vote for is a Gen III Hemi. BUT THE FACTORY Fn ENGINERS SCREWED THAT UP ALSO, HOW YOU SAY? 5.7&5.7mds 6.1 ?mds also? 6.4 ? mds dunno probly 6.2 FIVE FRICKING BLOCKS AGAIN? Ok maybe not. Or maybe including aluminum. Parts for GEN III are not coming at an LS pace or price. Expensive GEN III stuff equals me and many using old ancient less than race worthy parts as Hard core race parts. For the record you Mopar folks are who I would choose to be stuck with in an apocalypse. Why you do more with so little I am certain you could do anything with what is laying around at the moment. Good luck with the blocks 
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: dezduster]
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03/10/15 08:49 AM
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josh king just posted that the world mopar blocks are back in production and that arrow racing engines is doing the machining.they should be available in the next couple months.thats good news ,but still doesnt address the need for good replacement b/rb and hemi blocks for the average joe racer.....
and the average joe racer is not going to see one because average joe racer is so cheap he squeaks when he walks.
I doubt you will ever see a B/RB/Hemi Mopar block at the same price level as chevy/ford. Sadly it's just not going to happen because it can't be done and make a profit in the amount of time required. Even when the [censored] claimed they could do it for $1500, almost everyone was salivating but guess what, never happened and it was more than likely tooling costs even going overseas ... it's easier to sell thousand or 2 sets of heads that look STOCK ... because that's what average joe racer wants ... for $899, but most guys won't pony up 1500 - 2k for a block when they can run a $400 stock block.
If there was money to be made Dart would have made them 15 yrs ago , when people actually had money ...
Exactly right. What company would risk losing money to cater to only a few non-cheapskate MoPar racers?? Why didn't aftermarket blocks sell like hotcakes while they were available before?? Because 95% of the old school MoPar racing crowd wants cheap factory blocks, and they're drying up. I consider myself lucky to own a Megablock, but if it ever cracks, gets windowed, or whatever else turns it into a boat anchor, that will be it for me.
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: dezduster]
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03/10/15 12:47 PM
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The problem as I see it. There are likely 2000 people looking into 1 of 3 types of chevy after market blocks a year. 1500 people wanting 1 of 3 types of ford blocks per year. AND WAIT FOR IT MAYBE 300 MOPAR folks wanting 1 of 5 types of blocks per year. PLUS they want the ceramic graphite impregnated unobtaniom impacted awesomeness option for a 100 dollars more than the 1500$ they are willing to pay for one of the five blocks. So 3 variations of each block and that's fifteen variations.
Yes I saw the pole results I voted small block why because I have 6 440 long blocks,1 400 complete,000 spare 340 blocks and mine is at 4.100 bore. Could care less about gen II Hemi can barely afford to type it. But what I really wanted to vote for is a Gen III Hemi. BUT THE FACTORY Fn ENGINERS SCREWED THAT UP ALSO, HOW YOU SAY?
5.7&5.7mds
6.1 ?mds also?
6.4 ? mds dunno probly
6.2
FIVE FRICKING BLOCKS AGAIN? Ok maybe not. Or maybe including aluminum. Parts for GEN III are not coming at an LS pace or price. Expensive GEN III stuff equals me and many using old ancient less than race worthy parts as Hard core race parts. For the record you Mopar folks are who I would choose to be stuck with in an apocalypse. Why you do more with so little I am certain you could do anything with what is laying around at the moment. Good luck with the blocks
I agree on the different GEN III blocks, pure stupid. 1!! 4.0 bore, then different stroke cranks if more cubes needed. I guess they want "the new and improved" idea to sell cars, then you could just go buy a crank then you got the same thing in your older car.
Make one block for the Hemi-wedge crowd 4.375 bore, interchangeable top stud
Make one block for the small block crowd 4.0 bore 4-bolt mains. This would be the only things on the table,eat it or go hungry!
Let Chrysler make the GEN III blocks and stuff.
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: B G Racing]
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03/10/15 04:03 PM
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How come someone can make duplicates of whatever part they want and sell them at autozone. oreilleys, NAPA... seems they have no issue getting permission from mopar weather they say it is OEM or some new improved doo-dad  As far as the pole goes it seems on here there is a nearly direct/proportionatly, corelation of people wanting blocks to the number of parts in the for sale/wanted sections  could some one just look at the for sale parts in all the mopar boards and deduce what would be the best selling block? This is an old-fashion board so naturaly the oldest desighn most antiquated engine is the one most people want 
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: A727Tflite]
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03/10/15 07:44 PM
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dakotawilly
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no part number i do not believe would be an issue with most of us.as long as it is accepted by the majority of the classes which would utilize the block....
SFI 25.5 depends,no leak,even at 213 mph....
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Re: NEW DART MOPAR BLOCKS !!!!!
[Re: Adobedude]
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03/10/15 08:23 PM
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dakotawilly
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at this point in the game all we are doing is lobbying,so all input to them is VALUABLE for both sides.we get noticed,and they see that theres a market need.it appears that word is growing and they are taking notice.where that goes from here is in richards hands.if dart drops the ball there are others.bill mitchell already makes a hemi block,which is now back in production according to josh king.maybe they can be convinced to expand their offerings.....
SFI 25.5 depends,no leak,even at 213 mph....
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