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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: BradH] #1772214
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Question? Who makes replacement blocks for all the b/rb guys.........answer:NOBODY


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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: dakotawilly] #1772215
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Question? Who makes replacement blocks for all the b/rb guys.........answer:NOBODY





I have a 440 shortblock with a forged crank for sale at 375 dollars and can't even get one hit. Who needs replacement blocks when you can't even sell original equipment.


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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: pittsburghracer] #1772216
03/05/15 08:58 PM
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Question? Who makes replacement blocks for all the b/rb guys.........answer:NOBODY





I have a 440 shortblock with a forged crank for sale at 375 dollars and can't even get one hit. Who needs replacement blocks when you can't even sell original equipment.




Good price, but that block has the same flaws, not strong enough, as the one I have. Don't need another one.

Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: Dodgeguy101] #1772217
03/05/15 09:23 PM
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Didn't Dart start out making Hemi heads? Where are they now? Besides I hear the chevy guys whining about the quality of their aluminum.

Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: Dodgeguy101] #1772218
03/05/15 10:53 PM
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Like i said, the factory is the only viable source for a block since they have the deep pockets over the long run to do this and if they benefit also. We are a cheap bunch but those first Hemi blocks where priced so high the average joe couldn't afford it. There will be venders making and selling components for us but not the blocks because of cost that goes into it and since the chevy guys have us 50 to 1 there is enough of them with the money. The factory could lose money selling race parts just to sell cars on Monday and those days are gone.

Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: cudaman1969] #1772219
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If they had a decent crossbolted BB made they would probably sell 10 of them. 10 people are still dumb enough to throw wheel barrows of cash at something that on a good day MIGHT make 775hp with 14.1 CR and .800 lift cam because the ultimate cylinder head available flows 370 at .800 lift. HUGE market potential. W9/R3 stuff is sweet but you may as well build a fricken Cup engine.


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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: 72Swinger] #1772220
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If they had a decent crossbolted BB made they would probably sell 10 of them. 10 people are still dumb enough to throw wheel barrows of cash at something that on a good day MIGHT make 775hp with 14.1 CR and .800 lift cam because the ultimate cylinder head available flows 370 at .800 lift. HUGE market potential. W9/R3 stuff is sweet but you may as well build a fricken Cup engine.


. way different rpm range so if you go the cup route you better use the best of the best and that engine is now a dead horse too


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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: 72Swinger] #1772221
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If they had a decent crossbolted BB made they would probably sell 10 of them. 10 people are still dumb enough to throw wheel barrows of cash at something that on a good day MIGHT make 775hp with 14.1 CR and .800 lift cam because the ultimate cylinder head available flows 370 at .800 lift. HUGE market potential. W9/R3 stuff is sweet but you may as well build a fricken Cup engine.



Gee whiz, maybe my dart shouldn't run what it does!


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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: pittsburghracer] #1772222
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I just get frustrated by people thinking we need another Wedge block. We have PLENTY. The Gen III is where its at RIGHT NOW, you have drag racers loving them and an entire market of new Mopar gearheads with 2006 and newer hot rods that are putting blowers and turboes on by the 100's. One example, take ANY Charger RT from 68-71 and put it against my wifes 2012 Charger RT and I can promise you will see nothing but tail lights of my wifes car. Things are a changing guys.


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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: 72Swinger] #1772223
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I just get frustrated by people thinking we need another Wedge block. We have PLENTY. The Gen III is where its at RIGHT NOW, you have drag racers loving them and an entire market of new Mopar gearheads with 2006 and newer hot rods that are putting blowers and turboes on by the 100's. One example, take ANY Charger RT from 68-71 and put it against my wifes 2012 Charger RT and I can promise you will see nothing but tail lights of my wifes car. Things are a changing guys.




This website says you're wrong.....
http://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/dodge-0-60-mph-times/

I think you may a little carried away with your wifes car, but your point is well taken.


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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: 72Swinger] #1772224
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I just get frustrated by people thinking we need another Wedge block. We have PLENTY. The Gen III is where its at RIGHT NOW, you have drag racers loving them and an entire market of new Mopar gearheads with 2006 and newer hot rods that are putting blowers and turboes on by the 100's. One example, take ANY Charger RT from 68-71 and put it against my wifes 2012 Charger RT and I can promise you will see nothing but tail lights of my wifes car. Things are a changing guys.



ANY charger from 68-71? Is your wife's car stock?


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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: 72Swinger] #1772225
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If they had a decent crossbolted BB made they would probably sell 10 of them. 10 people are still dumb enough to throw wheel barrows of cash at something that on a good day MIGHT make 775hp with 14.1 CR and .800 lift cam because the ultimate cylinder head available flows 370 at .800 lift. HUGE market potential. W9/R3 stuff is sweet but you may as well build a fricken Cup engine.




I think Ed Cook would disagree with you.


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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: 72Swinger] #1772226
03/06/15 12:11 AM
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I just get frustrated by people thinking we need another Wedge block. We have PLENTY. The Gen III is where its at RIGHT NOW, you have drag racers loving them and an entire market of new Mopar gearheads with 2006 and newer hot rods that are putting blowers and turboes on by the 100's. One example, take ANY Charger RT from 68-71 and put it against my wifes 2012 Charger RT and I can promise you will see nothing but tail lights of my wifes car. Things are a changing guys.






I see all these posts and the supper fast times they are running so I think the new Hemi is doing OK. We need stronger more dependable small blocks.


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422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: pittsburghracer] #1772227
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I just get frustrated by people thinking we need another Wedge block. We have PLENTY. The Gen III is where its at RIGHT NOW, you have drag racers loving them and an entire market of new Mopar gearheads with 2006 and newer hot rods that are putting blowers and turboes on by the 100's. One example, take ANY Charger RT from 68-71 and put it against my wifes 2012 Charger RT and I can promise you will see nothing but tail lights of my wifes car. Things are a changing guys.






I see all these posts and the supper fast times they are running so I think the new Hemi is doing OK. We need stronger more dependable small blocks.





Is there any SB's running with the ritter block? Did they fix the issues with the blocks?


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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: sixpackgut] #1772228
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I think whitedart got his going. Haven't heard from him in a while.

Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: sixpackgut] #1772229
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If I knew the issues were fixed for sure I would have one. With the good small block heads avalible now I would take advance of the weights breaks given to the small block guys. I think it's a better platform


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422 Indy headed small block
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9.42@138.27

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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: pittsburghracer] #1772230
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This thread is making want to drop 4k on a g3 aluminum block just so I have one before they disappear


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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1772231
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I just get frustrated by people thinking we need another Wedge block. We have PLENTY. The Gen III is where its at RIGHT NOW, you have drag racers loving them and an entire market of new Mopar gearheads with 2006 and newer hot rods that are putting blowers and turboes on by the 100's. One example, take ANY Charger RT from 68-71 and put it against my wifes 2012 Charger RT and I can promise you will see nothing but tail lights of my wifes car. Things are a changing guys.



ANY charger from 68-71? Is your wife's car stock?




I understand what you're saying about the gen 3's. New technology, light
weight, strong blocks & great heads, but racing my bro's 08 6.1 Superbee against his 69 4 spd R/T (517 gen 2 Hemi), I was over 2 seconds & 13 mph behind at the stripe. Still, for under 400 cubes, the 6.1 is a street beast.

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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: Triggerfish] #1772232
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I just get frustrated by people thinking we need another Wedge block. We have PLENTY. The Gen III is where its at RIGHT NOW, you have drag racers loving them and an entire market of new Mopar gearheads with 2006 and newer hot rods that are putting blowers and turboes on by the 100's. One example, take ANY Charger RT from 68-71 and put it against my wifes 2012 Charger RT and I can promise you will see nothing but tail lights of my wifes car. Things are a changing guys.



ANY charger from 68-71? Is your wife's car stock?




I understand what you're saying about the gen 3's. New technology, light
weight, strong blocks & great heads, but racing my bro's 08 6.1 Superbee against his 69 4 spd R/T (517 gen 2 Hemi), I was over 2 seconds & 13 mph behind at the stripe. Still, for under 400 cubes, the 6.1 is a street beast.




Not really a fair comparrison


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Re: new dart mopar blocks ! [Re: sixpackgut] #1772233
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I just talked with Richard Maskin about 3 weeks ago about this very thing...(and other things).
He told me not a chance in hell! World can't at this time because Fiat won't sell the casting tooling...so?

Sucks right now for the mopar world....


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