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Re: New 5 spd transmission available soon
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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03/03/15 06:18 PM
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John_Kunkel
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Scott, you're the one that brought up the subject of "hacking" not me. I simply stated that the subject trans doesn't offer anything that the Tremec doesn't already.
A Tremec TKO600 slid into my '56 Plymouth like it was made for it....not all of us limit our interests to A, B and E-bodies.
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Re: New 5 spd transmission available soon
[Re: John_Kunkel]
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03/03/15 06:29 PM
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Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms
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Not to  with you John, just curious because I've never seen a 5 speed Tremec fit any B,E or A body (which Im sure is what that vast majority on Moparts own) without hacking. *BTW, I agree, the McCloud looks pretty similar to a Tremec
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Re: New 5 spd transmission available soon
[Re: dogdays]
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03/03/15 07:32 PM
03/03/15 07:32 PM
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Supercuda
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Only downside to the Passon setup I can see it the wait.
Cost is inline with other setups, work required is much less. I guess only the impatient, the foolish or the name droppers need buy the others.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
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Re: New 5 spd transmission available soon
[Re: dogdays]
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03/03/15 07:34 PM
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So Cal
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As of now.. Still no product... Only smoke & mirrors... We need to see some actual product & installs.... Just my $0.02... 
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Re: New 5 spd transmission available soon
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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03/03/15 08:15 PM
03/03/15 08:15 PM
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*BTW, I agree, the McCloud looks pretty similar to a Tremec
Really, because a TKO600 doesn't look anything like the McLeod to me.
Looking closely at the McLeod, they may be able to pull this off. It appears the front mounting plate is removable and the tail shaft is removable so only the gear cluster section is constant between all derivations. If that's the way they are tackling this, they may be able to make this work because, and I imagine this is the drawback for any trans manufacturing, is that you will need three distinct cases to cover Mopar applications, A/F, B, and E. By changing out the tail shaft and its associated shifter locations, they can make one case fit all lengths and shifter locations.
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Re: New 5 spd transmission available soon
[Re: TC@HP2]
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03/03/15 08:22 PM
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Manitoba, Canada
DaytonaTurbo
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*BTW, I agree, the McCloud looks pretty similar to a Tremec
Really, because a TKO600 doesn't look anything like the McLeod to me.
Looking closely at the McLeod, they may be able to pull this off. It appears the front mounting plate is removable and the tail shaft is removable so only the gear cluster section is constant between all derivations. If that's the way they are tackling this, they may be able to make this work because, and I imagine this is the drawback for any trans manufacturing, is that you will need three distinct cases to cover Mopar applications, A/F, B, and E. By changing out the tail shaft and its associated shifter locations, they can make one case fit all lengths and shifter locations.
For as small and stingy as the mopar market is, I highly doubt we will ever see different tail housing/shifter locations for various mopar models. All on the transmissions that's 1/2 a decade behind schedule from a big company like mcleod.
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Re: New 5 spd transmission available soon
[Re: Supercuda]
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03/04/15 11:58 AM
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you will need three distinct cases to cover Mopar applications, A/F, B, and E.
Why?
Chrysler had one case for all three, only the tail shaft and associated parts varied.
Excuse me, three tail shafts.
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Anything made for these cars shouldn't be weaker than a 23 spline A833.
Valid point. So, since all new transmissions are rated by lb ft capacity, where would the venerable A833 fall in this range? It certainly is a strong trans, but by no means is bulletproof. While a slick shifted crash box may have lasted for a dozen passes at the dragstrip behind a high output Hemi in the hands of Mr. Sox, I can recall a few DNFs from the 1970 Trans Am season for gearbox problems with engines that had much lower specific output than the Factory Experimental, Modified Production, and fledgling Pro Stock class.
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Re: New 5 spd transmission available soon
[Re: TC@HP2]
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03/04/15 08:17 PM
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Rittman Ohio
fourgearsavoy
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See now that's where putting a torque capacity rating on a transmission is just a marketing tool. You could put a 23 spline box behind a 1000 HP HEMI with 800 FT.LBS. of torque as long as you put a slipper clutch in between them  If you put that Mcleod box in a 3600 pound B-body with a 14" slick and a Mcleod Street-Twin it will fail  If they rated a transmission for "intended usage" you would see a much different price tag on them. They should include the proper clutch package with a transmission for the weight of the car and the power of the engine I never hurt an 18 spline HEMI box until I put a Mcleod dual disc clutch in the car that didn't slip.Then I started breaking stuff and I might be pushing 600 ft. of torque  The shifter position is still gonna require extensive mods to the torsion bar crossmember Gus 
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