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Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA #1763003 02/25/15 08:49 PM 02/25/15 08:49 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,354 ohio H HEMIDARTS OP master
HEMIDARTS OP master H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,354 ohio	Here is a link to competition plus that has an interview with warren johnson. Now that he is not actively racing, or competing against the Dodge's, i think he has some interesting and truthful way of looking at things. It does not appear that he sugar coats anything. I for one can respect that! click here

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: HEMIDARTS] #1763004 02/25/15 10:18 PM 02/25/15 10:18 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place C cudadoug master
cudadoug master C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place	Everyone can love him or hate him, but I have always had 1000% respect for WJ. Even as a die hard Bob Glidden fan. The reason the haters hate is just what you said: He has ALWAYS had a realistic point of view regarding PS and racing in general. When he's pissed, he doesn't mince words. I wish they'd find enough funding to get back out there, even with one car. WJ on the wrenches and KJ in the seat.

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: cudadoug] #1763005 02/25/15 10:30 PM 02/25/15 10:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	he wasn't pissed when he was on top..

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: Quicktree] #1763006 02/26/15 12:46 AM 02/26/15 12:46 AM
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WO23Coronet master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,255 Canada	Quote: he wasn't pissed when he was on top.. He sounds bitter, basically he wasn't "competing" with anyone while he was winning, but when he wasn't they were cheating. He should stop sucking on sour grapes

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: cudadoug] #1763007 02/26/15 01:50 AM 02/26/15 01:50 AM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	Quote: Everyone can love him or hate him, but I have always had 1000% respect for WJ. Even as a die hard Bob Glidden fan. The reason the haters hate is just what you said: He has ALWAYS had a realistic point of view regarding PS and racing in general. When he's pissed, he doesn't mince words. No.......and I don't hate him either. But I will never be a fan because of how he treated me when I asked him a question back in 1981 or so when he was shoeing for Jerome Bradford. He can be a colossal jerk. I do respect his knowledge and his accomplishments too , but as a person he is a two legged turd in my book. I met Ronnie Sox that same weekend ......he was pedaling a Mustang for Dean Thompson. The difference between the two was stunning. Anyone who has met Ronnie will know exactly what I am talking about... I have never met a friendlier person in a pro pit. Warren was even local to us , and cut his teeth racing around here. But a little arrogance goes a long way.

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: WO23Coronet] #1763008 02/26/15 05:06 AM 02/26/15 05:06 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place C cudadoug master
cudadoug master C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place	Quote: Quote: he wasn't pissed when he was on top.. He sounds bitter, basically he wasn't "competing" with anyone while he was winning, but when he wasn't they were cheating. He should stop sucking on sour grapes You don't think he wasn't COMPETING with Glidden and RMS? Better study up on history. But THEY were cheating. THEY and NHRA covered it up, creating the break in scandal.

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: cudadoug] #1763009 02/26/15 03:17 PM 02/26/15 03:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,175 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,175 Park Forest, IL	WJ would have been better off to actually quit driving after his "School's Out" tour and concentrated on Kurt's car. And yes, he was bitter when he was winning. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: slantzilla] #1763010 02/26/15 03:38 PM 02/26/15 03:38 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	Without a doubt WJ is a sharp guy and he won a bunch of races. Apparently he swallowed the bitter pill at a young age because he was the sorriest winner I've ever seen. Now it seems he's just festering waiting to bite at someone. As others have said he should've retired years before he did, just like Petty, Waltrip and many others.

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: Quicktree] #1763011 02/26/15 04:04 PM 02/26/15 04:04 PM
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John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,783 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: he wasn't pissed when he was on top.. You noticed that too? "Not mincing words" often comes off as whining. WJ= Whining Jerk The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: justinp61] #1763012 02/26/15 04:25 PM 02/26/15 04:25 PM
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jose jones super stock J Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 959 france	I was at the Finals in Phoenix when Darrell Alderman beat Warren Johnson for the very first time in the final round, Warren was a total douche when they interview him, He said Alderman got lucky and called Darrell's car a Jeep

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: cudadoug] #1763013 02/26/15 05:28 PM 02/26/15 05:28 PM
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WO23Coronet master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,255 Canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: he wasn't pissed when he was on top.. He sounds bitter, basically he wasn't "competing" with anyone while he was winning, but when he wasn't they were cheating. He should stop sucking on sour grapes You don't think he wasn't COMPETING with Glidden and RMS? Better study up on history. But THEY were cheating. THEY and NHRA covered it up, creating the break in scandal. Better read the article, HE said he wasn't competing with anyone but himself basically, until he lost then it was everyone else's fault but his And to add another point, it's sometimes a fine line between being a "call it as you see it" type of person (which is a good attribute) and a dink. When you can't take being beaten with a bit of grace and not trashing someone else's hard work and they HAVE to be cheating then you're just a crybaby dink, or a typical chevy guy Last edited by WO23Coronet; 02/26/15 06:07 PM.

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: WO23Coronet] #1763014 02/26/15 05:53 PM 02/26/15 05:53 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	A friend I used to work with was a huge WJ fan, nearing the end of his career when he was still making good power he was getting beat on the tree. I started calling him "quicker but losing", I sure had a lot of fun at his expense.

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: justinp61] #1763015 02/26/15 07:55 PM 02/26/15 07:55 PM
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J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,188 aZLiViN	Lots of valid points about the naturally aspirated funny cars. I'm actually hoping Charlie comes up with something interesting and makes a dent in the class.

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: HEMIDARTS] #1763016 02/26/15 08:02 PM 02/26/15 08:02 PM
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BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	I have lots of respect for WJ's knowledge & experience, but he's definitely not a "people person" by any definition of the term. Some years ago when some P/S b.s. was going on (the automated shifter logic, IIRC), he made some statements that he just wanted to make sure it was a "level playing field" for everyone. All his critics at the time jumped on that as meaning "As long as WJ is winning, it must be a level playing field for everyone else."

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: BradH] #1763017 02/26/15 09:53 PM 02/26/15 09:53 PM
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cudaman1969 master C Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,248 fredericksburg,va	I agree about the fans rooting for a brand(like me)or driver and that NHRA is killing the sport by promoting look-a-like cars. Then he talks about cheating, how about the time he used nitrous himself. Seems he only had a 3 speed lenco but they heard it shift an extra time, fourth was the nitrous turning on. I think he was on probation for a year. There was no one i wanted to see lose more then him or son. I loved it when Glidden dominated him for years, even in a mopar. He is smart but that doesn't give him the right to be a butt hole.

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: cudaman1969] #1763018 02/27/15 12:58 AM 02/27/15 12:58 AM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: I agree about the fans rooting for a brand(like me)or driver and that NHRA is killing the sport by promoting look-a-like cars. Then he talks about cheating, how about the time he used nitrous himself. Seems he only had a 3 speed lenco but they heard it shift an extra time, fourth was the nitrous turning on. I think he was on probation for a year. There was no one i wanted to see lose more then him or son. I loved it when Glidden dominated him for years, even in a mopar. He is smart but that doesn't give him the right to be a butt hole. I agree that I dont care how smart someone is or even if they are a rocket scientist they dont have to act like a jerk because of that. Its called common courtesy for your fellow man and he does not have much from what I have seen. I also have always voted for the cars I like to win and I was very glad Ronnie Sox drove a Mopar as I would not have wanted him to win if he drove a Chevy. But I grew up in the factory wars and loved it and I wanted the cars I liked to win and back then you could tell which cars were Mopars or Fords or Chevy's. I have lost alot of interest in the Pro's over the years because they all look the same and you can hardly tell which is a Mopar or Ford and so on. I dont care for it when all the cars look the same. Thats just another reason I love the Nostalgic Superstock racing and the FAST and Pure Stock cars so much as I can tell what kind of cars they are and I grew up in that era. Ron

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: 383man] #1763019 02/27/15 01:52 AM 02/27/15 01:52 AM
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dakotawilly mopar D Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 515 geezer acres rest home	what he lacks in personality{a bunch} he makes up for in sheer intelligence.the guy could send a riding mower to the moon.and was directly involved in the drce program,and if i am not mistaken,the olds program which was the start of the gm drce campaign, and the big duke cyl head deal.i am sure there is a ton more that nobody talks about.a thorn in our mopar sides for sure... SFI 25.5 depends,no leak,even at 213 mph....

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: dakotawilly] #1763020 02/27/15 09:49 AM 02/27/15 09:49 AM
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Spaceman Spiff master S Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,696 jersey	I bet if he ran a Mopar you guys would have your Pom poms out. The first to 180, the first to 190 and the first to 200mph in a pro stock. He may be arrogant, but other than Bob Glidden no one has done more for modern pro stock racing. 526 cubes of angry wedge, pushbutton shifted, 9 passenger killer!

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: cudadoug] #1763021 02/27/15 11:18 PM 02/27/15 11:18 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	Quote: Quote: Quote: he wasn't pissed when he was on top.. He sounds bitter, basically he wasn't "competing" with anyone while he was winning, but when he wasn't they were cheating. He should stop sucking on sour grapes You don't think he wasn't COMPETING with Glidden and RMS? Better study up on history. But THEY were cheating. THEY and NHRA covered it up, creating the break in scandal. Read the rule book during that time. There is no mention of nitrous oxide in the Pro Stock section. Doug

Re: Interesting article about Pro stock and NHRA [Re: dvw] #1763022 02/27/15 11:40 PM 02/27/15 11:40 PM
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pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,172 PA.	There are LOTS of grey area's in Pro Stock and there used to be a lot more. When you add Nascar guys to your crew like Anderson did years ago it opens a whole new can of worms. These guys working on these cars are a lot smarter and trickier than the guys teching the cars. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

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