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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: crackedback]
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02/27/15 02:57 PM
02/27/15 02:57 PM
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Al_Alguire
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Nooo ya think???
That was not my point. Maybe I am not clear enough. But if people do not think the show is getting more people involved in street racing I think it is a naïve view.
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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02/27/15 03:33 PM
02/27/15 03:33 PM
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Monte_Smith
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I view it as what it is, entertainment. I have watched "Moonshiners", I'm not building a still in the woods behind my house. Nor am I patrolling my property with my AR to make sure guys are not stealing my "Seng". Don't plan on moving to Alaska to build a cabin, nor am I selling my soul to go dig gold out of the ground. I like guns, have a lot. I don't watch "Justified" and then dream of going out and drawing down on guys. I also didn't join a biker gang after watching SOA, or those idiot bikers from Cali(Devils Ride). WE as car guys, relate to Street Outlaws, because WE are car guys and can relate to what these guys do, because WE have likely done the same. The majority of the shows viewership are NOT car people. You can obviously see that in the crowd when fans flock to see them at local tracks. Many have NEVER been to a racetrack before. Are you saying that after watching the show, the average viewer is going out and building a "street race car".......of course not. Those local guys talking about a "top 10" list........well, you can surely bet your azz, they are ALREADY racing. They may have gotten the "list" idea from the show, but to think that has MADE them go out and race, is in my eyes a stretch.
How many times you go to the local track for "Midnight Madness" and on the way out of the track, guys are hammering their cars, leaving blackmarks, or racing up the highway. I know here, I see it every time I go. In my opinion, this show increases the amount of illegal "street racing" no more than watching an NHRA or NASCAR race on TV. Guys who "street race" after watching that show were ALREADY doing it.
As far as "putting it on the track", Chief and Shawn both, are supposed to be in Memphis racing their cars in actual competition, at the upcoming race next month.
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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02/27/15 03:35 PM
02/27/15 03:35 PM
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Salt Lake City
camastomcat
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Nooo ya think???
That was not my point. Maybe I am not clear enough. But if people do not think the show is getting more people involved in street racing I think it is a naïve view.
As you stated, some of us grew out of it. Apparently, some didn't. Youth is bliss until someone gets killed or worse yet, kills somebody else's family. The NHRA obviously has other objectives in writing the letter, but as I said before, I would like to see these guys up their game and image at a non prepared track. At least that way the youth that wants to emulate what they are doing, sees them doing it at the right place. And, I agree, how stupid do you have to be to be standing along a road where there are no barriers, and people are racing?
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: Cudajon]
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02/27/15 05:31 PM
02/27/15 05:31 PM
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crackedback
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Just got the latest Crower catalog and Big Chief and Monza are featured in it. Their picture also popped up in my latest National Dragster in at least one advertisement. That means their faces mean something to racers. Just saying.
So the NHRA isn't against taking money from sponsors that use the guys for promotional purposes... Oh the irony! LMAO
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: Cudajon]
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02/27/15 06:13 PM
02/27/15 06:13 PM
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
BradH
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Just got the latest Crower catalog and Big Chief and Monza are featured in it. Their picture also popped up in my latest National Dragster in at least one advertisement. That means their faces mean something to racers. Just saying.
I'd say it's more accurate that their faces mean something to marketers, not necessarily racers.
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: DusterDave]
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02/27/15 07:41 PM
02/27/15 07:41 PM
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Chris'sBarracuda
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http://abc7.com/news/2-pedestrians-killed-in-chatsworth-street-racing-hit-and-run/535300/
Pittsburgracer quit trying to cloud the issue with the REALITY of reality of illegal street racing which is exactly what this show promotes..
Here's my question.. WHAT IF.????
It's always a possibility, you never know...... IF....
On this TV show, Someone DIES.. 
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/los-angeles-police-id-suspect-in-fatal-street-race/ar-BBhZPmr
Just throwing it out there.. 
Chris.. 
What if......just throwing it out there.....but what if, a racer died on live national television, at an NHRA event? Oh wait, that has already happened. Scott Kalitta is the first example that comes to mind. Should NHRA be shut down because somebody died? Racing is inherently dangerous, no matter where its done.
No Dave, what I'm speculating is that there may be charges brought up on whoever did the deed. Not to mention the lawsuits afterwards..
THEY have stated that what they are doing is illegal.
(Even though WE know it's on a closed street)
Chris..
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: gdonovan]
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02/27/15 11:42 PM
02/27/15 11:42 PM
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
BradH
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I'd say it's more accurate that their faces mean something to marketers, not necessarily racers.
Marketing doesn't toss around money with no expectation of return.
And not all marketing strategies are successful, either.
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: BradH]
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02/28/15 01:05 AM
02/28/15 01:05 AM
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skicker
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I've tried to do a pretty extensive amount of "reading around" on this over the last 10 days or so. Don't ask for sources as I've read so much I'm not sure where some were found. What I've been able to determine was that S/O Producers were contacted in season 1 or early in season 2 by the NHRA wanting a percentage or some type of "deal" from the show due to its "drag racing" similarities. They were told to pound sand by Pilgrim Productions. Now a few of NHRA's participants are also appearing on S/O. I can see where there may be a conflict here...but to dictate what you do in your personal life, offtrack from NHRA is a strong leap from what the reasoning in the letters stated. As an outsiders OPINION as I do not now or ever will hold an NHRA competitors license I initially thought this looked like a money grab...but where were the motives? How could they cash in? Tossing out all the internet drivel both pro and con I developed my own OPINION. After reading what relevant information is out there I've come to MY conclusion that they are plain and simple butthurt. The letters were a way of making sure that others did not follow in the footsteps of those receiving the letters. Maybe a "stop the bleeding" tactic. It's basically a "agree with us" or be banished policy. Which in itself is a conflict of interest for the original reason NHRA was formed...which was to get "street racers" off of the street. The one thing to me that doesn't make sense is if your TRUE goal is to get racers to the track why would you "banish" members only to have them do what your entire mission statement is against.  The ironic thing is the amount of hypocrites all over the net that condemn this when ALL have "street raced" at some time or another. "I" think was a hastily...very poor thought out decision by NHRA that will reflect badly on them in the future. I would be interested to see over the next two years or so if the number of NHRA members rises or drops...that would be a telling tale of how well this decision went...it may end up not even being noticable. 
...FAFO...
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: skicker]
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02/28/15 01:23 AM
02/28/15 01:23 AM
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Ask monty. He is in pretty good with them...ask him if nhra came to pilgrim early on wanting a slice of the pie
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: toplescuda]
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02/28/15 03:51 AM
02/28/15 03:51 AM
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Monte_Smith
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Ask monty. He is in pretty good with them...ask him if nhra came to pilgrim early on wanting a slice of the pie
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