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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: gdonovan] #1757252 02/19/15 03:08 PM 02/19/15 03:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,131 Amarillo, Texas BBR master
BBR master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,131 Amarillo, Texas	Quote: Quote: For those who care, from the horse mouth so to speak. Remember a comp license is a PRIVELEDGE NOT A RIGHT. Please cite what section of the NHRA rulebook they are violating. The letter cited the rule. In this situation NHRA holds all the marbles and can interpret it as they wish. How you, Al or I interpret it doesn't mean squat. Street racing (however real or fake) does our hobby no favors with those in our knee-jerk govt who would LOVE for us all to be driving Toyota Prius's. That is the bigger picture here. The NHRA knows it and the SO's don't care as long as they get their thrill. Drag Week 2011 - 77th place - DD Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya RMRW 2018 RMRW 2020

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: BBR] #1757253 02/19/15 03:17 PM 02/19/15 03:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,953 Houston, Texas TheOtherDodge master
TheOtherDodge master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,953 Houston, Texas	I used to think that most members of this forum were pretty smart (and they were years ago). I am reconsidering after reading the replies to this post. And that's all I have to say about this.

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: BBR] #1757254 02/19/15 03:29 PM 02/19/15 03:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,848 poplar bluff mo. T toplescuda OP I Whine
toplescuda OP I Whine T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,848 poplar bluff mo.	Quote: Quote: Quote: For those who care, from the horse mouth so to speak. Remember a comp license is a PRIVELEDGE NOT A RIGHT. Please cite what section of the NHRA rulebook they are violating. Street racing (however real or fake) does our hobby no favors with those in our knee-jerk govt who would LOVE for us all to be driving Toyota Prius's. That is the bigger picture here. The NHRA knows it and the SO's don't care as long as they get their thrill. I think part that is false. The show HAS got many people into the ideal of at least having some type of hot rod that befor never considerd a car/truck anything more then a way back and forth to work. I have a neph. That now wants to buy my 69 satellite tubb it and put a procharged hemi into and take to car show. Mostly because of the street outlaw show. Which up to bout 3 weeks ago (because of me) he had never even heard of the show. Im sure hes not the only one... 1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: toplescuda] #1757255 02/19/15 03:35 PM 02/19/15 03:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,089 st.cloud fl D d-150 Smarter than a 5th grader?
d-150 Smarter than a 5th grader? D Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,089 st.cloud fl	cause of this i think i will pass on gaineville this year

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: TheOtherDodge] #1757256 02/19/15 03:39 PM 02/19/15 03:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,141 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,141 Benton, IL.	No matter which side of this issue you stand on, the NHRA should not have waited 3 years to take action on this. And I would think that there would have been better ways to approach it. Because right or wrong, the reaction to the NHRA's actions has been overwhelmingly negative. They may well win the battle but lose the war on this one. Master, again and still

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: d-150] #1757257 02/19/15 03:39 PM 02/19/15 03:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,183 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,183 Park Forest, IL	These guys will not be the first or last to have had their licenses suspended for off track behavior. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: BBR] #1757258 02/19/15 03:42 PM 02/19/15 03:42 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan I Live Here
gdonovan I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: The letter cited the rule. I posted the letter the other day, it states no such rule. The rule cited pertains to actions at NHRA events which clearly S.O. is not. If NHRA can state Street Outlaws is in violation of their rules then every single wife beater, felon, DUI is just as guilty and must lose their license as well. Can't have it both ways. "I think its got a hemi"

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: toplescuda] #1757259 02/19/15 03:48 PM 02/19/15 03:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,131 Amarillo, Texas BBR master
BBR master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,131 Amarillo, Texas	Quote: I think part that is false. The show HAS got many people into the ideal of at least having some type of hot rod that befor never considerd a car/truck anything more then a way back and forth to work. I have a neph. That now wants to buy my 69 satellite tubb it and put a procharged hemi into and take to car show. Mostly because of the street outlaw show. Which up to bout 3 weeks ago (because of me) he had never even heard of the show. Im sure hes not the only one... You're missing it still. I did not say SO's does not bring new people into the hobby, I'm sure it does. The point is, our hobby (hot rodding, racing, modifying cars as we wish) is always under the threat of "something", beit laws that outlaw nitrous systems in street cars, laws that forbid engine swaps or vehicle modifications, etc. The glorification of street racing only serves to further burnish the opinions of those that would love to continue to push their anti-racing/hotrodding/whatever agenda on the rest of us. Drag Week 2011 - 77th place - DD Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya RMRW 2018 RMRW 2020

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: toplescuda] #1757260 02/19/15 03:49 PM 02/19/15 03:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	Quote: Quote: Quote: For those who care, from the horse mouth so to speak. Remember a comp license is a PRIVELEDGE NOT A RIGHT. If you do not like the rules/conditions of membership and the responsibility of owning a license you are welcome to not participate. http://www.hotrod.com/news/nhra-responds-to-the-hate-over-their-street-outlaws-letter/ Just like a state issued Drivers License... Noooooo $&*#.... There are people that believe freedom of movement (driving) in this country is a right, not a privilege, even though our forefathers didn't enumerate it beyond a horse 240? years ago. And most seem to forget that other rights can be restricted if you don't follow the rules ( like robbery). The reason the difference is important, taking away a right requires one have their day in court to face their accuser, removing a privilege is as simple as the stroke of a pen, or typing on a keyboard. http://www.realtruth.biz/driving/supremecourt.htm Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: gdonovan] #1757261 02/19/15 03:52 PM 02/19/15 03:52 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: The letter cited the rule. I posted the letter the other day, it states no such rule. The rule cited pertains to actions at NHRA events which clearly S.O. is not. If NHRA can state Street Outlaws is in violation of their rules then every single wife beater, felon, DUI is just as guilty and must lose their license as well. Can't have it both ways. A felony might not be a issue BUT having a legal license does so if you have a DUI and found guilty and they pull your license then its a issue

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: gdonovan] #1757262 02/19/15 03:57 PM 02/19/15 03:57 PM
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BBR master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,131 Amarillo, Texas	Quote: Quote: The letter cited the rule. I posted the letter the other day, it states no such rule. The rule cited pertains to actions at NHRA events which clearly S.O. is not. If NHRA can state Street Outlaws is in violation of their rules then every single wife beater, felon, DUI is just as guilty and must lose their license as well. Can't have it both ways. Sure they can. They make the rules, they enforce the rules, they can interpret the rules as they see fit. They are judge, jury and executioner and are rightfully so. The offenses you state are ridiculous and have no bearing on the sport of drag racing whatsoever. None of those things, however heinous, reflect poorly on the NHRA as an organization or violate the ethos of the NHRA. Drag Week 2011 - 77th place - DD Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya RMRW 2018 RMRW 2020

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1757263 02/19/15 04:00 PM 02/19/15 04:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan I Live Here
gdonovan I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: A felony might not be a issue BUT having a legal license does so if you have a DUI and found guilty and they pull your license then its a issue Please cite what laws Street Outlaw participants have broken where they are filming? The show is shot with the full cooperation of local police and town officials. NHRA can't have it both ways. They can't dictate what people do in their private life no matter how distasteful. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand NHRA's point of view. They however miscalculated backlash from racing fans. I have already sent a letter to them and the local tracks stating why I will not be attending any events at NHRA tracks this year. "I think its got a hemi"

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: gdonovan] #1757264 02/19/15 04:09 PM 02/19/15 04:09 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: A felony might not be a issue BUT having a legal license does so if you have a DUI and found guilty and they pull your license then its a issue Please cite what laws Street Outlaw participants have broken where they are filming? The show is shot with the full cooperation of local police and town officials. NHRA can't have it both ways. They can't dictate what people do in their private life no matter how distasteful. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand NHRA's point of view. They however miscalculated backlash from racing fans. I have already sent a letter to them and the local tracks stating why I will not be attending any events at NHRA tracks this year. All I am saying is about the license issue... not all felonies take away your license.. you posted wife beaters... I dont think the NHRA cares.. sure they may not like it.. but it does state you need a legal drivers license

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1757265 02/19/15 04:37 PM 02/19/15 04:37 PM
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Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	What's ironic and I haven't seen anyone mention is that NHRA is big on keeping racers off the street but now are saying that if you street race (or promote street racing by being on a TV show and are LEGALLY street racing) and you actually want to come race LEGALLY at one of their tracks, you can't.... Talk about making no sense!!!! If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1757266 02/19/15 04:37 PM 02/19/15 04:37 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan I Live Here
gdonovan I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: All I am saying is about the license issue... not all felonies take away your license.. you posted wife beaters... I dont think the NHRA cares.. sure they may not like it.. but it does state you need a legal drivers license You missed the point- NHRA is trying to punish members for behavior performed outside of NHRA events. In this case the members in question are doing nothing illegal. "I think its got a hemi"

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: gdonovan] #1757267 02/19/15 04:46 PM 02/19/15 04:46 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: All I am saying is about the license issue... not all felonies take away your license.. you posted wife beaters... I dont think the NHRA cares.. sure they may not like it.. but it does state you need a legal drivers license You missed the point- NHRA is trying to punish members for behavior performed outside of NHRA events. In this case the members in question are doing nothing illegal. No I didnt miss it.. and I think they over stepped their bounds but I also understand that they dont condone street racing and in the show its "portrayed" to be illegal which can promote illegal street racing which NHRA is against .... just saying

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1757268 02/19/15 04:53 PM 02/19/15 04:53 PM
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1757269 02/19/15 04:57 PM 02/19/15 04:57 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan I Live Here
gdonovan I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: No I didnt miss it.. and I think they over stepped their bounds but I also understand that they dont condone street racing and in the show its "portrayed" to be illegal which can promote illegal street racing which NHRA is against .... just saying Then we are in agreement. As stated I understand their point of view and think they stepped in it in a bad way. It is now a PR nightmare for them and a bonanza for Discovery Channel. "I think its got a hemi"

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: sixpackgut] #1757270 02/19/15 04:58 PM 02/19/15 04:58 PM
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: sixpackgut] #1757271 02/19/15 04:58 PM 02/19/15 04:58 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: this is why many of us are who we are. Yeah I know... I grew up on Woodward and I did my fair share of illegal street racing back then... I also quit doing it after I lost my license... now days I wouldnt even think of doing it.. I have a lot more to loose now days

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