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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: 72N96RR] #1757232
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The part I dont understand is NHRA is quoting section 1.3.1 Participant Code...

"Participants at an event are expected, at all times, to conduct themselves in a professional and non-disruptive manner......"

The problem I see is Street Outlaws and their competitors is not at a NHRA sanction event, therefore how can they (NHRA) claim any jurisdiction ?

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Jeepmon] #1757233
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Hey, how about leaving Tony Stewart out of this. Not funny!

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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: hemid68] #1757234
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Hey, how about leaving Tony Stewart out of this. Not funny!





I just copied it from FB. I got a laugh out of it.

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1757235
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"If these guys are so good and fast why not show up at an NHRA event and take the trophy and some serous cash home?"

Really serious cash home from an NHRA event. You pay $300+ to run for $1200. NHRA is like a bunch of greedy whores. I will love to see the day they go under. You can win serious cash at NHRA tracks but that cash had nothing to do with NHRA, it has to do with a good promoter, which if it does not involve Nitro Methane, NHRA is not. NHRA cares nothing about us little guys except for grabbing our cash for Chassis certs, License renewals, etc. Not to mention how many perfectly good seat belts I have been made to take out and replace. Outlaw tracks or IHRA tracks are plentiful. NHRA can read this and pull my license as well.

The Hitler video on You Tube is very funny.

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: qwkmopardan] #1757236
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"If these guys are so good and fast why not show up at an NHRA event and take the trophy and some serous cash home?"

Really serious cash home from an NHRA event. You pay $300+ to run for $1200. NHRA is like a bunch of greedy whores. I will love to see the day they go under. You can win serious cash at NHRA tracks but that cash had nothing to do with NHRA, it has to do with a good promoter, which if it does not involve Nitro Methane, NHRA is not. NHRA cares nothing about us little guys except for grabbing our cash for Chassis certs, License renewals, etc. Not to mention how many perfectly good seat belts I have been made to take out and replace. Outlaw tracks or IHRA tracks are plentiful. NHRA can read this and pull my license as well.

The Hitler video on You Tube is very funny.


I truly I guess that's why you see a lot of spectators at these grudge event people just wants to see some racing

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: racerx] #1757237
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They don't show up and race at track events because their cars are set up to run on the STREET. Completely different chassis and suspension set ups. If they just showed up at a track event where it was prepped, they would have such severe tire shake the car would come apart.

Also, watching the show, I don't recall seeing and NHRA decals, hats, shirts, etc, that would lead me to think they were involved with the NHRA.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: 8secDart] #1757238
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I was told that not only did they send letters to the people "street racing"

But, to the people that have been providing shirts and banners and stickers, etc

" sponsors" and telling them they need to pull back too or else

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1757239
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Just like every BIG organization, they always loose the true path. As per the recent issue of National Dragster- why doesn't the NHRA fix the D.O.T. problems that racers face? Why don't they fix the IRS problems for racers? Why does NHRA payouts stink? Promotions of local or national events is poor. Why does NHRA keep renewing their contract with ESPN? Are they really promoting drag racing or just themselves? Street racing is not safe and illegal. This shows has many followers. These are all potential racers or spectators. Use it. If you remember "Big Willie" from LA, you know that he was a street racer and worked hard for a strip in LA. NHRA embraced him in addition to all the racers that got their start street racing and had great careers. So what's the problem?

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: booger] #1757240
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[I mean really the biggest bet was $3500. If these guys are so good and fast why not show up at an NHRA event and take the trophy and some serous cash home?




How much could they really make at an NHRA event? I honestly have no idea but know costs have to be higher and suspect the purse for a single win isn't near $3500.

Never forget, they are also paid just for being on the show. That's where the money is.




Back in the good old days (early 2000's) even at an IHRA National event a win in a sportsman class could net 10k or better with contingencies. I know thats not a fact in IHRA anymore but I believe a NHRA win with a decent amount of stickers still pays pretty well. Al might know the answer to that.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: CHAPPER] #1757241
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http://www.dragzine.com/news/south-georgia-motorsports-park-joins-ihra/









http://www.dragzine.com/news/street-outlaw-producers-seeking-talent-for-detroit-spinoff-show/

The Monkey OUTlaws coming to the Big D area ? ... uNless the racing action has massively changed there ... they BEST change their racing format.

I don't think they allow massive flood lights, porta johns and hot dog stands out on 696 or 275 !! .... and what are these talks with Milan Dragway ? .... now THEY have hot-dog-stands !!

At least this is what my GrandPa told me ... since I was born in 1976 !

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: D-50] #1757242
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Nhra posted why its dangerous to street race....showing a car on its side. And can kill. But no where did they say anything about the nhra pres. Having a dui. And the affects it has doing so on a public road in traffic


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: toplescuda] #1757243
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Thousands more DUI's everyday in comparison to Street racing.

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Just like every BIG organization, they always loose the true path. As per the recent issue of National Dragster- why doesn't the NHRA fix the D.O.T. problems that racers face? Why don't they fix the IRS problems for racers? Why does NHRA payouts stink? Promotions of local or national events is poor. Why does NHRA keep renewing their contract with ESPN? Are they really promoting drag racing or just themselves? Street racing is not safe and illegal. This shows has many followers. These are all potential racers or spectators. Use it. If you remember "Big Willie" from LA, you know that he was a street racer and worked hard for a strip in LA. NHRA embraced him in addition to all the racers that got their start street racing and had great careers. So what's the problem?




Now there you go! If NHRA would do for its members like NRA does for theirs I would buy a lifetime membership today--
We have all faced with being pulled over by some cop that has an odd understanding of DMV laws
and having to pay a lawyer to explain to that cop what they really are in court--lets see--days off work/lost pay/ pay fine anyway to just get the heck out of court and back to work
Ugh--you can't transport that fuel jug--well Yes I can in my state--you get the idea

Yea....protest the NHRA to actually DO something for the many members with DMV and IRS Fantastic idea!!!!! Best idea on this silly post

It is TV!!!! That means it is all BS!!!

BTW--got my new dragster certed--at local chassis shop--NHRA tech guy drove in ( he was Brand New ) and was supposed to split travel cost between the number of cars--well..we had three times as many cars as they thought--like 16-18 so we ALL paid an amount as if there were only 6 cars--he got rich that night

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: toplescuda] #1757245
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Nhra posted why its dangerous to street race....showing a car on its side. And can kill. But no where did they say anything about the nhra pres. Having a dui. And the affects it has doing so on a public road in traffic




Steve Grebeck, Racin Jason, Don Carlton, Lee Shepard, and many more have crashed cars an died on NHRA tracks.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1757246
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True. How many die each year as a result from a dui on the public street? Which the nhra president has on his record (.09) he wants to pull the street outlaws guys license for that. But yet what he has done is far worse
I bet he still has HIS license. ....


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: toplescuda] #1757247
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For those who care, from the horse mouth so to speak. Remember a comp license is a PRIVELEDGE NOT A RIGHT. If you do not like the rules/conditions of membership and the responsibility of owning a license you are welcome to not participate.

http://www.hotrod.com/news/nhra-responds-to-the-hate-over-their-street-outlaws-letter/


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1757248
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For those who care, from the horse mouth so to speak. Remember a comp license is a PRIVELEDGE NOT A RIGHT. If you do not like the rules/conditions of membership and the responsibility of owning a license you are welcome to not participate.

http://www.hotrod.com/news/nhra-responds-to-the-hate-over-their-street-outlaws-letter/






Just like a state issued Drivers License...

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Jeepmon] #1757249
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For those who care, from the horse mouth so to speak. Remember a comp license is a PRIVELEDGE NOT A RIGHT. If you do not like the rules/conditions of membership and the responsibility of owning a license you are welcome to not participate.

http://www.hotrod.com/news/nhra-responds-to-the-hate-over-their-street-outlaws-letter/






Just like a state issued Drivers License...




Noooooo $&*#....


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1757250
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For those who care, from the horse mouth so to speak. Remember a comp license is a PRIVELEDGE NOT A RIGHT.




Please cite what section of the NHRA rulebook they are violating.





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Just like a state issued Drivers License...




Which has clearly defined rules as to how you can lose it. Even then they are optional if you have a good lawyer who can get it plead down to something else.

Explain to me how street outlaws are in violation the NHRA rulebook?

The short answer is they are not, what is going on is not happening at an NHRA event or even a NHRA facility. The show is shot with full cooperation of the local police and town officials.




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