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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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02/18/15 04:05 PM
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Well in my opinion I am surprised it has taken this long. I would be interested to se if there was any other motivation to do it. It also seems a tad but hypocritical given what some of the bigger names have done in the past or are accused of and nothing happens. However it is there ball and there game and it IS in the rulebook.
I saw a quote from someone at the NHRA that it may be a case where cars wearing NHRA competition numbers and displaying NHRA decals maybe be a large part of the issue. At that in their minds(NHRA)it shows those people are representing the NHRA and it's racers. If that is the case a simple warning as they got and asking them to remove any reference to NHRA in terms of decals, numbers etc be removed from the cars. Possibly this would help to alleviate any perception the NHRA has that they condone ILLEAGAL street racing in any form, TV show or not. Likely could have been handled better than it was.
While some like to point out that the races are on closed down permitted streets, airports etc. They certainly DO NOT promote it as such. Many of the racers are members on yellowbullet and gladly admit they test on public roads when need be. Thus admitting they are taking place in an illegal activity that does fall under the NHRA's personal conduct clause that ALL of us who hold I license or membership are subject to. After all we do not have to be members or hold a license we CHOOSE to. I know some are trying to justify all this as being legal the show is not promoting it as such. And there are plenty of people who I guarantee think it is really illegal street racing.
I don't follow the show like some for sure. If there is nothing going on and I am around I will watch it. I don't like all the phony TV drama that seems to come with just about everything on TV anymore personally. While it is great for the aftermarket parts suppliers to maybe sell some parts and certainly to reach people through advertising, since it seems everyone is wearing some manufacturers t shirt anymore I do not see how it helps organized drag racing at all. Which seems to be a point some are making. I can see it however having a similar affect to Fast and Furious where more people get out there and street race, endangering others. But maybe I am wrong but I have not seen an influx of new blood at the tracks for sure and IIRC this is season 5 of this show. In the end the show will run it's course, and yes these guys do run at sanctioned race tracks.
I have seen what some of them have said about it and they may want to rethink their stance if they wish to continue to do so in the future. A couple of the "guest" appearances are guys who regularly compete at NHRA sanctioned tracks. They have shown Tulsa Raceway more than once that I have seen and it is an NHRA track. The PSCA runs it events at NHRA facilities as well. Not saying they cannot go elsewhere just saying they may want to rethink the current public relations strategy, on both sides honestly. But the show WILL end and those guys WILL want to continue to race. I feel confident the NHRA will be around after street outlaws goes aw
QFT
For perspective, change the players:
If a high profile NRA member suddenly began a super popular TV show glorifying "outlaw hunting" (aka midnight poaching) you can bet your butt the NRA would try to put as much distance between that member and themselves as possible. It might be popular and ultimately draw people into the sport of hunting and shooting, but it does so in a manner that disparages what the NRA stands for.
Same deal. NHRA want people to know they are absolutely not a part of what happens on SO's.
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Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A
Drag Week 2014 - Kapooya
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
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02/18/15 04:08 PM
02/18/15 04:08 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Almost didn't click to start this video when I saw what it was. Glad I did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41gSRYzK2yg
It is hilarious. 
Actually I'd rather watch the NHRA and did this weekend, they even had the lower classes running on ESPN2 3 or 4 can't recall. Much better than watching Donkeys trying to wreck their 100k+ car on some dark narrow back road for $500. I mean really the biggest bet was $3500. If these guys are so good and fast why not show up at an NHRA event and take the trophy and some serous cash home?
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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02/18/15 04:22 PM
02/18/15 04:22 PM
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67Satty
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Almost didn't click to start this video when I saw what it was. Glad I did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41gSRYzK2yg
It is hilarious.
Actually I'd rather watch the NHRA and did this weekend, they even had the lower classes running on ESPN2 3 or 4 can't recall. Much better than watching Donkeys trying to wreck their 100k+ car on some dark narrow back road for $500. I mean really the biggest bet was $3500. If these guys are so good and fast why not show up at an NHRA event and take the trophy and some serous cash home?
The answer is simple, they've found a way with their no prep races at the track and/or street racing niche to be a big fish in a small pond.
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: 67Satty]
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02/18/15 04:46 PM
02/18/15 04:46 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Almost didn't click to start this video when I saw what it was. Glad I did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41gSRYzK2yg
It is hilarious.
Actually I'd rather watch the NHRA and did this weekend, they even had the lower classes running on ESPN2 3 or 4 can't recall. Much better than watching Donkeys trying to wreck their 100k+ car on some dark narrow back road for $500. I mean really the biggest bet was $3500. If these guys are so good and fast why not show up at an NHRA event and take the trophy and some serous cash home?
The answer is simple, they've found a way with their no prep races at the track and/or street racing niche to be a big fish in a small pond.
??? I see at least one car wreck every week. Big fish in a small town you mean... hahaha
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: toplescuda]
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02/18/15 04:55 PM
02/18/15 04:55 PM
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I haven't watched the show,, but I WOULD THINK that the production company that produces it DOES,, in FACT,, get permission from the local authorities and I am PRETTY SURE the local police department closes off the road and they DO HAVE all the legalities and all of the city's BLESSINGS and are NOT just doing this in the middle of some interstate blocking traffic with 40 foot Peterbuilts... Therefore,, it's NOT ILLEGAL STREET RACING as they want you to think but an ORGANIZED RACE with PARAMEDICS and FIRE DEPARTMENTS standing "in the wings".... AM I RIGHT????
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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02/18/15 05:00 PM
02/18/15 05:00 PM
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[I mean really the biggest bet was $3500. If these guys are so good and fast why not show up at an NHRA event and take the trophy and some serous cash home?
How much could they really make at an NHRA event? I honestly have no idea but know costs have to be higher and suspect the purse for a single win isn't near $3500.
Never forget, they are also paid just for being on the show. That's where the money is.
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: nosboy]
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02/18/15 05:10 PM
02/18/15 05:10 PM
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Between a rock & a hard place
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I haven't watched the show,, but I WOULD THINK that the production company that produces it DOES,, in FACT,, get permission from the local authorities and I am PRETTY SURE the local police department closes off the road and they DO HAVE all the legalities and all of the city's BLESSINGS and are NOT just doing this in the middle of some interstate blocking traffic with 40 foot Peterbuilts... Therefore,, it's NOT ILLEGAL STREET RACING as they want you to think but an ORGANIZED RACE with PARAMEDICS and FIRE DEPARTMENTS standing "in the wings".... AM I RIGHT????
You are correct on all guesses. It's NOT ILLEGAL street racing. It's NOT SANCTIONED by the NHRA is the issue. Thus, there is no revenue stream for them...all the while SO's TV rating are better.
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: sixpackgut]
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02/18/15 05:12 PM
02/18/15 05:12 PM
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NHRA is deleting peoples posts on their facebook page and I dont think they can delete fast enough
They created a mess they can't keep up with
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: booger]
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02/18/15 05:16 PM
02/18/15 05:16 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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[I mean really the biggest bet was $3500. If these guys are so good and fast why not show up at an NHRA event and take the trophy and some serous cash home?
How much could they really make at an NHRA event? I honestly have no idea but know costs have to be higher and suspect the purse for a single win isn't near $3500.
Never forget, they are also paid just for being on the show. That's where the money is.
Some of the pay outs around here on Friday and Sat-nights can get pretty high. Especially for the OPS and Real Street cars. It's 1/8 mile so it's right up their ally. These are heads up events Capitol Raceway has regular top ET payouts of $3000. And of course there is plenty of side action, if one were to need it. May 2nd they have a "Top of the Hill" showdown, $5000.00 top ET class. Maybe they should come out east and do some running...
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: Spaceman Spiff]
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02/18/15 05:27 PM
02/18/15 05:27 PM
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If a high profile NRA member suddenly began a super popular TV show glorifying "outlaw hunting" (aka midnight poaching) you can bet your butt the NRA would try to put as much distance between that member and themselves as possible.
Already addressed this- All NHRA had to do was issue a statement indicating they don't agree with the ***reality TV show*** Street Outlaws and people should attend a real NHRA event to see what all the action is about while quietly working with the Street Outlaw producers to remove any NHRA related signage.
It would have been a win-win for NHRA and Street Outlaws. Instead NHRA shot themselves in the foot and Street Outlaws will rake in the cash.
I for one like the no bs stance they took. Some see it as them shooting themselves in the foot, while others see it as them not compromising what the NHRA stands for. Heck, they issue the license, they can suspend it if the like and what does an outlaw need a comp license for anyway? Lol
How would you feel if your state revoked your license because you have competed in Drag Week, and they deem that unexceptable?
There's nothing illegal about Drag Week. Cars are tagged, and insured and the racing is all done at a drag strip. Now if I was doing something stupid on the street while on Drag Week and the state revoked my license, well then I guess I had it coming didn't I?
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Drag Week 2012 - 2nd place SRBB N/A
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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop.....
[Re: jcc]
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02/18/15 05:38 PM
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I'm with NHRA on this one. You want to participate in this stupid s$&*? Take the NHRA identification, numbers, etc, off the car. An NHRA license is a privilege, not a right. I prefer to not be associated with such stupidity.
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