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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: Quicktree] #1752327
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I guess that's why all the fast race cars run dana's.



Wait last I checked it was all nine inch rears at the track. There you have it....


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: 1967dartgt] #1752328
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Wait last I checked it was all nine inch rears at the track. There you have it....





...and SBC's...



But is all seriousness, I will be upgrading my 8 3/4 with a 9" for all the reasons already mentioned


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: OUTLAWD] #1752329
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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: dakotawilly] #1752330
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I think for a 10 or 11 second street/strip car like what you drive (someday... ), it doesn't make a damned bit of difference with respect to ET. Pick one and go with it.


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: DusterDave] #1752331
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Question Moparts gearheads, what is the difference in pinion centerlines between 8 3/4, Dana 60 and 9" er's?


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: 72Swinger] #1752332
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Are we bracket racers or professional racers. Why do you want to change gear sets. If you run low 8ths or faster run the 9 and keep a wad of money ready. The dana, easy set up for 4 to 8 hundred bucks unless you need new parts.Set the gears up right and make sure its straight and it will last for years with no upkeep and one thing less to worry about.Funny, we go to the track and guys are adjusting valves,charging the battery,changing jets,resetting the bars all kind of stupid stuff,why? Don't make it complicated!

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: Cab_Burge] #1752333
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Brad, once you see the pinion support spit out on the starting line from a Ford nine inch rear end you will never think of using a Ford type nine or nine and half inch rearend again


$100 pinion support keeps that from happening

Monte

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: cudaman1969] #1752334
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Are we bracket racers or professional racers. Why do you want to change gear sets. If you run low 8ths or faster run the 9 and keep a wad of money ready. The dana, easy set up for 4 to 8 hundred bucks unless you need new parts.Set the gears up right and make sure its straight and it will last for years with no upkeep and one thing less to worry about.Funny, we go to the track and guys are adjusting valves,charging the battery,changing jets,resetting the bars all kind of stupid stuff,why? Don't make it complicated!




I didnt call it stupid stuff.. some times I'd spend
a Saturday and a Sunday just testing the 4-link..
that got me down to a 1.19 60'..and take most of a
day just doing jet changes ... I guess you are satisfied
with anything

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1752335
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Are we bracket racers or professional racers. Why do you want to change gear sets. If you run low 8ths or faster run the 9 and keep a wad of money ready. The dana, easy set up for 4 to 8 hundred bucks unless you need new parts.Set the gears up right and make sure its straight and it will last for years with no upkeep and one thing less to worry about.Funny, we go to the track and guys are adjusting valves,charging the battery,changing jets,resetting the bars all kind of stupid stuff,why? Don't make it complicated!




I didnt call it stupid stuff.. some times I'd spend
a Saturday and a Sunday just testing the 4-link..
that got me down to a 1.19 60'..and take most of a
day just doing jet changes ... I guess you are satisfied
with anything





1.19 60' on a street/strip car like the OP is asking about?

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: justinp61] #1752336
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Are we bracket racers or professional racers. Why do you want to change gear sets. If you run low 8ths or faster run the 9 and keep a wad of money ready. The dana, easy set up for 4 to 8 hundred bucks unless you need new parts.Set the gears up right and make sure its straight and it will last for years with no upkeep and one thing less to worry about.Funny, we go to the track and guys are adjusting valves,charging the battery,changing jets,resetting the bars all kind of stupid stuff,why? Don't make it complicated!




I didnt call it stupid stuff.. some times I'd spend
a Saturday and a Sunday just testing the 4-link..
that got me down to a 1.19 60'..and take most of a
day just doing jet changes ... I guess you are satisfied
with anything





1.19 60' on a street/strip car like the OP is asking about?




No its a race car but the person that I quoted isnt
the OP... all I was trying to state was with testing
you can make the car run better and usually more consistent

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: BradH] #1752337
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If all things were equal between the 9" and Dana 60, the 9" with an aluminum center looks better if nothing else.

I am putting a 9" in a 62 Dodge right now, Yukon center. I have another car with a 9" as well. Lots of good opinions here, but looks can play a part as well.

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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: justinp61] #1752338
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1.19 60' on a street/strip car like the OP is asking about?



I wish!

My junk was in the mid 1.4s the last times at the track.

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: cudaman1969] #1752339
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Are we bracket racers or professional racers. Why do you want to change gear sets. If you run low 8ths or faster run the 9 and keep a wad of money ready. The dana, easy set up for 4 to 8 hundred bucks unless you need new parts.Set the gears up right and make sure its straight and it will last for years with no upkeep and one thing less to worry about.Funny, we go to the track and guys are adjusting valves,charging the battery,changing jets,resetting the bars all kind of stupid stuff,why? Don't make it complicated!




Why would I need a wad of money? A properly set up 9 inch is trouble free.

How would I brace a Dana 60 for radials? You know a radial is a dead hooked tire.


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: 1967dartgt] #1752340
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Let's keep on track as I am interested in this also.
9 second car 3000 to 3400 lbs what would be cheaper to buy not build?
S Dana 60 or 9 inch?
Monty mentioned the pinion support for 100.00
Matt

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: MattW] #1752341
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Let's keep on track as I am interested in this also.
9 second car 3000 to 3400 lbs what would be cheaper to buy not build?
S Dana 60 or 9 inch?
Monty mentioned the pinion support for 100.00
Matt




I built my 9" for the Rampage.. its street/strip..
I have a total of $1100 into it.. that was a complete
new center with a posi(I think its a tru track or
the next step up.. I forget) and new gears and bearings..
$70 for the bearing ends.. I had the 2" X 3" tubing
(back brace) laying around the shop... I also had
all the ladder bar and shock brackets... I did make
the ladder bars and I had all the rod ends.. then
it was my time to shorten it and burn it together..
I had to buy axles and brakes but would have either way

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: MattW] #1752342
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Let's keep on track as I am interested in this also.
9 second car 3000 to 3400 lbs what would be cheaper to buy not build?
S Dana 60 or 9 inch?
Monty mentioned the pinion support for 100.00
Matt




After all of these ideas, I think Dr. diff will be sending me a nodular 8 3/4 3rd member and 35 spline axles and run w/it cos I`m not steppin in the 9`s legally anyhow and have no desire to. Back to street racin and makin $$$$....................


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: MattW] #1752343
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Let's keep on track as I am interested in this also.
9 second car 3000 to 3400 lbs what would be cheaper to buy not build?
S Dana 60 or 9 inch?
Monty mentioned the pinion support for 100.00
Matt


that has been explained many times, depending on how much you can do. there are many cheap parts for the 9 available

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: Quicktree] #1752344
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I never have understood the Dana vs. 9" deal. It's like women driving SUV's. 40 years ago there wasn't a women in the United States driving a SUV. Then it became chic and now all women want to drive an SUV. 40 years ago there wasn't a 9" in any Mopar in the US. Now it's like a roller cam or a 400 GPH fuel pump, people feel like they won't be socially accepted if they don't have a 9". What a country. It's a Mopar. Put a Dana in it.


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: rickseeman] #1752345
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I never have understood the Dana vs. 9" deal. It's like women driving SUV's. 40 years ago there wasn't a women in the United States driving a SUV. Then it became chic and now all women want to drive an SUV. 40 years ago there wasn't a 9" in any Mopar in the US. Now it's like a roller cam or a 400 GPH fuel pump, people feel like they won't be socially accepted if they don't have a 9". What a country. It's a Mopar. Put a Dana in it.




I dont understand the relationship of the mopar and
the dana... yes mopar used them.. along with MANY
other companies... dana wasnt a division of Chrysler
it was just a company that Chrysler BOUGHT rear ends
from

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: rickseeman] #1752346
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I never have understood the Dana vs. 9" deal. It's like women driving SUV's. 40 years ago there wasn't a women in the United States driving a SUV. Then it became chic and now all women want to drive an SUV. 40 years ago there wasn't a 9" in any Mopar in the US. Now it's like a roller cam or a 400 GPH fuel pump, people feel like they won't be socially accepted if they don't have a 9". What a country. It's a Mopar. Put a Dana in it.




Not agreeing or disagreeing with what someone should run, but its the same deal with a 727 too. Used to be great, now its a POS apparently.


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