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How fast without screwing slicks to rims #1738642
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I'm close to taking my GTX to the track for the first time. 542 inch hemi,glide,Dana with 456 gears. Hoosier 29. X12 slicks. Car is 3350lbs with driver. What will I need to do with my slicks? tubes in slicks??? Will I have to screw slicks to rims??? Rims are Billet Specialties street lites that kinda look like Magnum 500s.i really don't want to put ugly screws in them. If I have to use them how many per side? Oh yeah this thing should run 9.20s 9.50 range. Thanks

Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: mercman1] #1738643
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I'm close to taking my GTX to the track for the first time. 542 inch hemi,glide,Dana with 456 gears. Hoosier 29. X12 slicks. Car is 3350lbs with driver. What will I need to do with my slicks? tubes in slicks??? Will I have to screw slicks to rims??? Rims are Billet Specialties street lites that kinda look like Magnum 500s.i really don't want to put ugly screws in them. If I have to use them how many per side? Oh yeah this thing should run 9.20s 9.50 range. Thanks




If your not running tubes.. you wont need to screw
them on... you might want to glue the slicks on...
also being a heavier car you would be running a bit
more air pressure and that helps to keep the slicks
from moving... then the other factor.. how hard does
it leave... but again if you dont run tubes.. dont worry

Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: mercman1] #1738644
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I just use high tack .
Put it on the rim and tire bead.
I inflate the tire to 30psi and let it sit like that a couple day's before running them.

Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: a493demon] #1738645
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Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: a493demon] #1738646
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Thanks Moparts! Hope to hit a test n tune session to work out the bugs in the next two or three weeks.

Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: mercman1] #1738647
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7.89/174 at 3590 lbs without anything else than just mounting the ET Streets. Installed screws last summer, didn't help or hurt.


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Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: jyrki] #1738648
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4.43 @ 155 1.000 60 foot no screws

Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: mercman1] #1738649
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I'm close to taking my GTX to the track for the first time. 542 inch hemi,glide,Dana with 456 gears. Hoosier 29. X12 slicks. Car is 3350lbs with driver. What will I need to do with my slicks? tubes in slicks??? Will I have to screw slicks to rims??? Rims are Billet Specialties street lites that kinda look like Magnum 500s.i really don't want to put ugly screws in them. If I have to use them how many per side? Oh yeah this thing should run 9.20s 9.50 range. Thanks


I run mid 10's - 1.50 60 ft times. No screws on 10" wheels with same tires as yours - tubeless and glued to wheels. I get about 1/2" movement with each pass running 11 - 12 lbs in them. I switch tires side to side every other time out. At the ET's you mentioned, I would be running screws or beadlocks. I'm a sissy.


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Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: Crizila] #1738650
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why don't you screw them from the inside? Then there's nothing on the front side to see- plus the tires will stay put.


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Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: chrisnben] #1738651
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why don't you screw them from the inside? Then there's nothing on the front side to see- plus the tires will stay put.




Not a good idea as the amount and location of the screws plays a role is how the tire reacts..............


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Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: mercman1] #1738652
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My bud goes 4.60s on a pro radial w no screws or beadlocks.Hi tak glue will do on the lip of the rim.

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Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: chrisnben] #1738653
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why don't you screw them from the inside? Then there's nothing on the front side to see- plus the tires will stay put.




Do not do this, just run them dry or with high tack or weather stripe adhesive.


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Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: 1967dartgt] #1738654
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why don't you screw them from the inside? Then there's nothing on the front side to see- plus the tires will stay put.




Do not do this, just run them dry or with high tack or weather stripe adhesive.




with just one side screwed you can roll
the other side bead off the rim.. not good

Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1738655
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Didn't want to drill my Vintage American 200s either. I've run both 10.5x29.5 and 10.5Wx31 M/T's w/o screws. Don't bother balancing them as they will move. Glueing may help but I haven't tried. 1.29/9.12@147.7 3340 lbs.
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My radial pros spun 4-5" each pass with no glue. 1.48 60' 3500lbs

Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: 1980volare] #1738657
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Use better glue and it won't happen.

Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: fishy340] #1738658
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3100 no screws , no glue 8.30 @ 169, 33 x 10.50 W's and they move about 1/2 in in the life of the tires. 15 in wide wheels 10 lbs air. No screws less wrinkles!

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Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: hustlin hoosier] #1738659
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My opinion is to use them. I know guys with radials run quite a bit more air pressure than a bias ply so that helps keep the bead intact. I run 14.5 x 33's @ 6.5 pounds and they grow at least 3 - 4 inches at speed. For $14 at RJ race cars, I put new (32) screws in each rim at every slick replacement. Slick never moves on the rim and I run no tubes. This is for my piece of mind and my safety.

Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: mercman1] #1738660
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I'll comment about the tube portion from your question since I recently went through this same issue about using tubes. Most inner tubes dedicated for slicks, have a larger diameter valve stem and include a retainer that screws onto the valve stem which helps anchor to the rim. As a result, if you decide to use an inner tube such as what Hoosier or MT offers, the wheel's valve stem hole will likely require redrilling to accommodate for the larger diameter valve stem (e.g. 5/8").

If that wasn't enough, depending on where the valve stem opening is located on your wheel, the wheel's flange may not be able to accommodate enlarging the hole or the flange may interfere with being able to secure (i.e. screw-on) the valve stem retainer.

In addition, most drag tubes locate their valve stem in the center and not out-board on the tube. I guess, many "drag-only" wheels are made with larger valve stem holes and are located in the center or middle portion of the wheel for this reason. I suggest you check your BS wheels and see what size the valve stem opening is and where it’s located. Most likely you will find it difficult to use a drag race specific inner tube with those wheels for these reasons. Hopefully this makes sense and you won't end up ordering tubes like I did and then find out what I’m trying to describe.

Perhaps if you are ordering wheels you can specify where to have the valve stem located and you won't encounter these issues.

BTW, Billet Specialties - Street Lites are some of the nicest looking wheels IMO… nice choice.

Re: How fast without screwing slicks to rims [Re: cruzin] #1738661
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My car is a street car thats not as fast as many of you but I do use the Hoosier 30 x 9 radial slick on the track and street and I do not run tubes and do not screw them to the rim. I have been running the radial slicks like this about 4 or 5 years now with never a problem. I figure it works great for me and if I do get a nail or something in the tire I can plug it where I am since I carry tire plugs and a kit with me. Also the Hoosier radial slicks do not loose any air as even when sitting in the garage from November to late March it never needs air when I bring it back out. Ron


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